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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:05] Speaker B: Liberty and Equipped Podcast. I'm Greg Davis, founder of NeoMag. This podcast is about living boldly, using liberty for good and staying equipped and mindset, skill set and gear for whatever comes your way. Today's episode is ad free but it's made possible by NeoMag Free O'. [00:00:20] Speaker C: Clock. [00:00:21] Speaker B: We build innovative American made gear to help you stay better equipped. And if you want to support the company and get great gear, you can head to theneomag.com or support us for free. [00:00:32] Speaker A: Free o'. [00:00:33] Speaker B: Clock. You can subscribe, leave a review and share the podcast. We'd love to hear from you. You could be the very first person to ever email me. You can email me at Life Liberty equipped with one pmail.com also host with me today. To my right is Mr. Nate Hills. Hello. And to my left, Mr. Michael. My name is not Mike Billings. [00:00:57] Speaker C: He's very specific about that. [00:00:58] Speaker B: Yes. How you guys doing? Cracking a cold one open over there. [00:01:05] Speaker C: Little asmr. [00:01:08] Speaker A: We should have timed it and done it at the same time. [00:01:11] Speaker C: No, that's. That's homosexual. [00:01:13] Speaker B: That's too much. [00:01:16] Speaker A: I was thinking about sending you an email real quick just so I could be the first. [00:01:20] Speaker C: We need to get a different flavor. [00:01:22] Speaker A: I like the grape. [00:01:23] Speaker C: Grape's good. But what did we get last time? The last one was better. [00:01:27] Speaker A: I think it was blue. I had blue before. I got graped several times. But I like the grape. [00:01:34] Speaker C: The grape's good. [00:01:35] Speaker A: The blue's kind of. [00:01:36] Speaker C: Blue's great. [00:01:36] Speaker A: It's a lot of sugar. [00:01:38] Speaker C: It's the same amount of sugar. It's the same amount. [00:01:41] Speaker B: It's only 15 calories. [00:01:43] Speaker C: Only 15 whole calories. [00:01:44] Speaker B: That is amazing. [00:01:46] Speaker C: Well, it's. Per serving. How many? Oh, no, it is only one serving size per can. [00:01:49] Speaker B: That's amazing. That. That can is one serving. [00:01:52] Speaker A: I'm just saying this huge can is not sponsored by first form, is brought to you by first form. [00:01:57] Speaker C: It also has zero sugar in it. Which. [00:02:02] Speaker B: What is it? [00:02:03] Speaker A: Does it have dextrose, sucralose, fructose? [00:02:07] Speaker C: I don't know. [00:02:08] Speaker B: I can't stand those fake sugars that that drink we got yesterday. Going to come back from the range. Like it was also sugar free. Whatever that. That like fake sugar stuff. [00:02:17] Speaker A: I couldn't do that. The sunset Aspartame. [00:02:20] Speaker B: Is that what it's called? I guess. [00:02:21] Speaker C: Aspartame. [00:02:21] Speaker B: Aspartame. [00:02:22] Speaker A: I gave it a shot. [00:02:23] Speaker B: That stuff is. [00:02:24] Speaker A: Yeah, it wasn't good. Now the mango one's good. I like the mango refreshers. I like anything that's what it was. [00:02:29] Speaker B: Half. It was peach and mango. [00:02:31] Speaker A: But there's like the carbonation side. [00:02:33] Speaker B: I like that. I like the carbonation. [00:02:35] Speaker A: I think that's what got me. [00:02:36] Speaker C: Does not have sugar in it. [00:02:37] Speaker A: Wow. [00:02:38] Speaker C: What is giving you the sweetness? [00:02:40] Speaker B: There's something giving sweetness. [00:02:41] Speaker A: I don't know, the first form deliciousness. [00:02:44] Speaker C: Not sure I'm going to drink it anyway. [00:02:46] Speaker B: And I feel left out. I'm just drinking water. Room temperature water over here. [00:02:50] Speaker C: Yummy, yummy, yummy. [00:02:52] Speaker A: Fridge for you. So when you're ready. [00:02:54] Speaker B: I just, I. I need a can that's like half that size. I could never finish a whole one of those. [00:02:58] Speaker A: That's why I like the four packs. Because the four packs are the skinny like Red Bull size. [00:03:03] Speaker B: Yeah, like the Red Bull size can. That's what I need. [00:03:05] Speaker A: Like these are like the monster sized cans. And this is a problem because I can't either. I'll either. When I'm hot, I'll drink it like it's water and then I want another one or I can't drink all of it at once and I feel full. [00:03:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I can't drink the whole thing. [00:03:19] Speaker A: When I say there's a lot of [00:03:20] Speaker C: sugar, not a problem for me. There's no sugar in it, so it's fine. [00:03:22] Speaker A: No sugar. [00:03:23] Speaker C: It's fine. [00:03:23] Speaker A: It's good. It's healthy water. It's pretty much. [00:03:26] Speaker C: Pretty much water. [00:03:27] Speaker A: It's a good stuff. So you guys like the blue? I'll have to get the blue. [00:03:30] Speaker C: Blue better. [00:03:31] Speaker B: I haven't tried the grape yet. Can I try that? [00:03:33] Speaker C: Yeah. Did you try it? Tastes like grape drink. [00:03:36] Speaker B: Tastes like purple drink. [00:03:37] Speaker A: It's that purple drink. [00:03:38] Speaker C: Purple drink. Grapey. I mean, it's good. [00:03:42] Speaker A: It's not bad. [00:03:43] Speaker C: It's not that it's not. It's not that it's not good. I just like the blue one better. [00:03:45] Speaker A: I like that one. The freedom one, the screaming Freedom. That was okay. [00:03:50] Speaker C: Well, we need to look at the other flavors. Maybe there's another one. We can try a different one next time. [00:03:54] Speaker A: Almost got the orange one, but I think they were sold out this time. I don't know what the flavor was. [00:03:59] Speaker C: Probably orange. [00:04:00] Speaker B: Orange. [00:04:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, like orange server or you know, there's like. [00:04:04] Speaker B: If it was mango Creamsicle, that's what [00:04:06] Speaker A: I think it might be good. [00:04:08] Speaker B: That sounds pretty good. [00:04:09] Speaker A: If it's mango, it's, it's, it's ball. Like if they had a shirt that said first form mango, I'd probably buy. [00:04:15] Speaker B: I'm not an energy drinker at all but an asterisk. The monster. It's like the mango monster. [00:04:22] Speaker A: The Mango Loco, bro. That one's a good one, dude. Yeah. [00:04:26] Speaker B: So good. Those are dangerous because I. Yeah, I'll slam one days and I want another one. Meanwhile, my heart is palpitating and I'm seeing double. [00:04:36] Speaker C: Seeing sounds. Hearing. Hearing things, you know, it's great. [00:04:40] Speaker B: Sne. What's going on with you? [00:04:41] Speaker C: Oh, am I not going to. Okay, I won't play the thing. Very good. [00:04:44] Speaker B: You don't have to play the thing. [00:04:45] Speaker C: Okay. [00:04:46] Speaker A: You don't have to. [00:04:47] Speaker C: Cassie has strep again. Third time this year. [00:04:52] Speaker B: Third time. [00:04:52] Speaker C: Third time in the last, like, six weeks. [00:04:54] Speaker A: It's in three months or three months. [00:04:56] Speaker C: Yeah. The doctor is not quite to the tonsils out just because strep is really bad this year. [00:05:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:04] Speaker C: I mean, she's had it three times. Weston's had it once. The daycare. The director at the daycare, she got it like, it's just really bad this year. Her doctor, who went to high school with Bethany was. He's just like. It's just been a really, really bad season for strep for whatever reason. So we're not quite to tonsils getting out discussion. Although we maybe get referred to ear, nose, and throat doctor for it. [00:05:35] Speaker B: So we'll see. [00:05:35] Speaker C: But she has it again. We're. Exactly. So hopefully that. I mean, she's on the antibiotics. She's. She's fine at this point, but it's just. It comes around for the billionth time. So it just means that we've bought another toothbrush and thrown away the old toothbrush and everything, got washed and everything. You know, that kind of stuff. [00:05:59] Speaker B: Have you tried whiskey? [00:06:01] Speaker C: I've not tried whiskey. [00:06:02] Speaker A: Yeah, Hotty toddy. [00:06:03] Speaker C: I mean, again, it's interesting because for her, it doesn't manifest like it does for other kids. So she doesn't get a fever. Yes, her throat hurts. I mean, that is constant for anyone with strep. But this last time, the only reason we knew she had strep, I mean, she was acting sick, but she didn't have a fever. She didn't have any of the white spots on her tongue or her throat. She wasn't complaining about her throat hurting. She was just acting sick. And then she was complaining about an earache, which we're like, oh, well, maybe it's just an ear infection. And then we brought her to the doctor and he didn't see any infection in her ear. So then he swabbed her for strep. [00:06:40] Speaker A: Just. [00:06:40] Speaker C: He's Like, I'll just check. And sure enough, it came back as strep, so didn't even think she had it this last time and she ended up having it. So good thing we took her to the doctor, I guess, but just a pain in the butt. So have that again. We're in the midst of antibiotics, though. I think we're halfway through the 10 days that you have to be on antibiotics. So hopefully that kicks it, you know, kicks it out and we'll call that a good. Don't get it again. [00:07:07] Speaker B: Yeah, my youngest was home Monday from school with strip as well. Yeah, she had it over the weekend and it's no good. [00:07:15] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean it's. Again, it's not the end of the world. It's just annoying more than anything else. [00:07:21] Speaker B: I'll say three times back to back. That's just. [00:07:22] Speaker C: Yeah, it's just a lot. [00:07:23] Speaker A: It's rough. [00:07:24] Speaker C: It's a lot. [00:07:24] Speaker A: It's definitely rough. [00:07:25] Speaker C: But on the positive note, weather has been fantastic. Yeah, we have no snow anymore. [00:07:30] Speaker B: At least through today. [00:07:31] Speaker C: Well, I mean, even today the weather's still warm. [00:07:33] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I mean, no, I mean through today is good. It's dropping back down to like the [00:07:36] Speaker C: 40s, but you know, I'll still take 40s. I'll take 40s over. Over 30s. [00:07:40] Speaker B: I saw one day it was like high 30s. It's like high 30s and then 60 and then back down to like 40s and then it's just. [00:07:47] Speaker C: Yeah, we're. We're back into the. We're back in the Ohio spring. I mean, we have actually our. We have a tornado. Okay, which one's bad? Like warning is bad. Watches conditions are correct. I never know we're going to say watches the less. Well, that. That was the severe weather warning at lunch. So today we sent them. [00:08:09] Speaker A: Or not or actually sending an alarm. [00:08:10] Speaker C: No, it's actually actual, actual alarm. So we have a tornado watch today and we got a severe weather warning over lunchtime. That'll be for the rest of the day, essentially. So it's that season in Ohio where with the swings in temperature we get wild weather. But for the most part, I mean, I think it was like 70 degrees yesterday. So. [00:08:29] Speaker B: Yesterday was beautiful. Me and my quintess rained yesterday and it was great. [00:08:34] Speaker C: Yeah, so it's, it's. It is wonderful season. Now. [00:08:37] Speaker B: Are you guys like me where I. I'm. Me and Joey was talking about this. I'm a. Under. What is it? Under reactor. A big under reactor to like storms and stuff like that. [00:08:52] Speaker A: You're not. [00:08:52] Speaker B: He Was talking about, like, his mom sent him, like, a bunch of texts. Like, there's a. There's a tornado alarm. Be. Don't be aware. Be. You know, be okay. And then there's people that are like, [00:09:02] Speaker C: it depends on the. [00:09:03] Speaker B: Straight to the basement. [00:09:03] Speaker C: It depends on the conditions. I. If you go outside and the sky is changing color, and I don't mean, like, it's getting dark, but I mean, like, it's green, I'll start reacting when. When the sky is indicating to me that there's something scary coming, then. Yeah, I mean, I've been. I've been outside when the sky turns green. And when I mean green, I don't mean, like, oh, there's a tinge. I mean, it turns snot green. And you're like, that's not natural. That's not normal. It's not right. I've seen. Been outside when the clouds start to tumble, and I don't mean turning in a circle, but literally tumble like a barrel, which is terrifying. [00:09:44] Speaker B: Things like that. [00:09:45] Speaker C: When you think. See stuff like that, it's like, okay, something's wrong. [00:09:49] Speaker B: You will go out and look. [00:09:50] Speaker C: Oh, absolutely. [00:09:51] Speaker B: So, like, there are some people that don't. As soon as they get like, an alarm or something. No. They're straight to the basement. [00:09:57] Speaker C: No, I mean, I'll send my kids and stuff if there's. If they're. If so, whatever the worst of the two. So say it's a tornado warning. I think. I think tornado warning means there is a tornado in the area type of thing. I will start moving my family to the basement type of thing, But I will stay out, trying to keep an eye on what's going on, mostly because I just want to make sure that until I see a. I don't know, a funnel, something that indicates that there's something really bad happening, or like I said, the sky changes color or there's that deathly still. Because that's the other thing. If. If there's a lot of wind and a lot of rain and all of that stuff, and then all of a sudden everything goes still, you know that things are about to go bad. Yeah, all of those things are indications that something bad is about to happen. Unless those things happen, I can usually take a judge. I've been enough severe weather to understand what's happening most of the time. So. And half those. Those things I do for the comfort of my own family because my kids get scared. So it's like, yeah, go in the basement, go with mom. Go sit on the couch. You guys can all cuddle up. You can't hear anything down there. It's not a big deal. But I. I'm not worried about it. [00:11:09] Speaker B: Most of the time I've. I've seen. I mean, in my 44 years of life, I've yet to once have. And I've seen a lot of tornadoes, so. Which I did. Look it up. A tornado watch is be prepared. A tornado is possible. [00:11:22] Speaker C: Yeah. Conditions are right. [00:11:23] Speaker B: Warning is take action. A tornado is happening or about to happen. Yeah, okay. But I've even had warnings. I've lived through many warnings. I've never once seen in my area or a tornado touchdown, so. [00:11:38] Speaker C: Well, that's what I'm saying, though. Like, even way. [00:11:41] Speaker B: Yeah, like, even. Even the warnings I'll discuss. I'll go stand by my. My window and watch out. [00:11:46] Speaker C: Well, that's what I'm saying. I. [00:11:47] Speaker A: Popcorn in hand, pretty much. [00:11:49] Speaker C: But I'll still. I'll send my family to the basement again because they get nervous and it's like, yeah, this makes it easy. You guys go in the basement. You're safe down there. [00:11:57] Speaker B: Not a big deal. [00:11:58] Speaker C: And I'll keep an eye on things. I usually. Then I'm calling my dad, who's across the street. I'm like, do you see anything? I don't see anything. Do you see anything? And because I know that he's also not in the basement, and we'll talk back and forth and if we see, you know, a cow float by, it's like, okay, probably should go to the basement, Sonny. [00:12:15] Speaker A: We gotta go. We got cows. [00:12:17] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. [00:12:18] Speaker A: I think it's a little bit different, you know, with kids and everything else, you have another factor that you have to play into the matter of storms and fear and making sure everybody's safe. For me, personally, I don't have kids. I don't have a dog. So it's kind of one of those, like, oh, right. Like I've flown through some really severe storms. So being actually in the clouds and in the weather and then seeing it from the ground and knowing the development of the clouds and the style of clouds and what to kind of look for, it's fascinating to me. But when we were kids in Tennessee, we had some really bad storms, had some touchdowns and tornadoes. And in my lifetime, I've been around to see some tornadoes, but never in a position that, like, I'm in danger per se. Strong winds, destruction and so forth. It's. It's definitely interesting to kind of watch and look out for. I think from the preparedness standpoint, like, I have equipment, I have gear. We all have stuff. You know, we've got medical, we've got supplies for a bug out for a rainy day. And it's nothing to grab it or have it stationed in Ohio in a basement. We didn't have basements. So I was like, hey, go hop in the closet or the deepest spot of the house or go lay in the bathtub. Now when I was a kid, it's kind of funny when the storms would come through, it wasn't. It wasn't that our parents weren't concerned about us. There were times that mom, you know, and dad, dad was a dad. But Mom's like, you were in the bathtub, blankets and everything else. But there was a time too that I was like, go unplug the tea. Like you were getting ushered to unplug everything. Because we were worried about the power or surge protection. But now I sleep through it, you know, Like, I don't mean this in a bad way, but if the good Lord's coming to take me home and that's the way I'm going, I'm going to be asleep when it happens, or I'm going to be awake when it happens. The winds here, I will say, are definitely an adjustment. It's been a while. It is very similar to hurricane style winds on a normal Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, 50, 60 mile an hour. Those are gusts. Those aren't just windy days. You know, we, we don't fly in that type of weather at all. So at least the smaller planes, you know, the big, they do their own thing. So in, in Florida, when it came time for a storm, I was again, I, I had a dog at the time, but we would be like on the beach, like, let's go, like, let's see it. Cause I mean, the winds, the hurricane coming, so tornadoes, not so much of a factor. I will say this water, I appreciate it more and more now. I was never really a fear of water, right. I don't want to drown per se, but having been in Florida long enough to experience a couple of hurricanes, see the devastation there before, after, and. Or the amount of water that rapidly floods an area that can really prohibit you from getting in or out, that's kind of a fear that can be unsettling. So different, different type of storms or weather, I might be more alert or adamant to be like, okay, maybe I, I should go get a hotel or scoot out of town. But tornadoes, I'm like, let's go. I want to see Dorothy. I want to see a cow flying Across. I don't want to see destruction there. Like I don't want to see anybody get hurt or anybody loss of damages. But Mother Nature is beautiful in its own. [00:15:29] Speaker C: Yeah, I was. Our area is not super tornado prone. Meaning like, like you said, Greg, we haven't had a lot of funnels actually touch down here. I think I've lived in Wadsworth since 1997, so we'll be pushing 29 years this year. October will be 29 years. And in that timeframe, I think I can think of twice, maybe three times that an actual tornado came through the area. And it wasn't terrible destruction, it wasn't a horrible tornado. I can't remember the different categories of tornado, but nothing, Nothing. [00:16:12] Speaker B: You know, I feel like I remember I could be misremembering. [00:16:15] Speaker A: It's F1 through 5 and 5. [00:16:16] Speaker C: Is that what it is? Okay. [00:16:18] Speaker A: Devastating. [00:16:19] Speaker C: I'm not going to try and quote the. The levels they've been. But nothing devastating. Right. [00:16:24] Speaker A: Dude, does Ohio even have like severe anything in that sense, like flooding? Well, I mean areas. [00:16:30] Speaker B: Actually a lot of water down, flash flooding and. [00:16:32] Speaker C: Well, and down in the Dayton area, they've gotten hit by some really severe tornadoes. So when we first were going to move my sister down in college, she was going to school, the same college that I went to, which was Cedarville, which is right outside Dayton, Ohio. We were running to the local Walmart, which is about a 30 minute drive from the college. We're driving into the town, it's called Xenia. And as we're driving in we were like, wow, all of these houses, all these buildings have new roofs. This is crazy. This is weird. And what we hadn't known was that summer or the summer before, I think it was a F4 or F3, had ripped through the town. Yeah, ripped through the town and tore all of the roofs off everything. Destroyed a bunch of the town and everything. And that happens. Not like every year or anything like that, but while I was in the military, while I was in the Army Reserve, it happened. So this would have been only three or four years ago. It happened again. A bunch of my, or I shouldn't say a bunch of my soldiers, but a bunch of the soldiers in my unit actually got like, soldier, what was it? Not Soldier of the Year. That's not the right term. I can't remember the award, but an award for performing acts while in civilian capacity for going out and helping the community. Like a couple of my guys actually cut a lady out of her house because trees had fallen on her house and she couldn't extricate herself from the situation. They went with chainsaws and literally cut her out of her, her house so she could get out in that same thing. So while we in northeast Ohio may not get hit by as much of the flooding and the tornadoes and that kind of stuff, it's a lot more minor up here. There are parts of our state that do get. [00:18:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I got so accustomed to, to like Florida tornadoes, where like you always have a tornado warning because the, the cold, the, the hot water evaporating, condensation, so forth. Right. Going through weather, it becomes so forth normal. It does so much so that they're like, oh, tornadoes going off or there's a tornado touchdown and they're like, oh, it's, you know, a typical F1, small, heavy enough winds that it can be called a tornado. There's. There's a touchdown point, but whatever they classify it, right? And there's always damage, but it was never, I have never seen like F3, F4, F5 in person. You know, all on the Internet out Oklahoma, Missouri, you see it, Tornado alley type of thing. Yeah, yeah, of course. And even growing up in Tennessee, we, we had tornadoes touchdown in the area, but it was like touchdown five seconds later, it's gone. Reeks of wind damage. [00:19:07] Speaker C: Right. [00:19:07] Speaker A: And so forth. Flooding was always one that we always had in Tennessee. Living in the country, in the swamplands, but to the point of Florida was the hurricane. There was a coolest sense of destruction without loss of life or anything. Was when I'm driving down the middle of a street in the city the, that had the hurricane hit in Tampa, right. And there's a boat, not on a [00:19:33] Speaker C: trailer, just in the middle of the [00:19:35] Speaker A: street in a parking lot. Like cattywampus is a good word for us, right. In the street and into the parking lot of the apartment. So whether it just flown up or [00:19:45] Speaker C: just like it had gotten pushed by the storm surge up into the street, right. And then when the storm surge went back, it stayed. [00:19:52] Speaker A: It's like, hey, well, where's my boat in Walmart? Somebody's gonna have to call you and tell you, hey, it's in our parking lot. [00:19:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:19:58] Speaker A: Where's your trailer? [00:19:59] Speaker B: That's, that's pretty crazy. [00:20:00] Speaker A: I mean like North Carolina, they got, they got hit hard with flooding and we saw that devastation. That was. They still haven't recovered from that one. [00:20:09] Speaker B: Yeah. So that's wild. Well, so me and Michael got to enjoy some nice weather yesterday. Went to, went to the range. And the reason that's noteworthy is I don't think I had gone to the range to shoot since, like, the fall of last year. I couldn't think of any time before that. So it was nice to get out to the range to a certain aspect. It is like riding a bike. There are certain things that, you know, like, I actually didn't shoot as bad as I thought I was going to, but I definitely wasn't going to be punching, you know, you know, single holes either. But. [00:20:40] Speaker A: But you shot a lot of different guns yesterday, too, which is, like, put a lot of. And you. I don't know if you shot the Smith in a while because you. Primarily your sakado. [00:20:49] Speaker B: That's probably the most. I've shot that in one. [00:20:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I really do think so. [00:20:52] Speaker B: I shot that a lot yesterday. [00:20:53] Speaker A: You shot the bodyguard, you shot the Sakato, you shot the Smith. I don't think you got to shoot my.365, which you've shot him before. But we had it out there. So, yeah, definitely a lot of shooting. [00:21:02] Speaker B: I did make an MMP Monday video with my little bodyguard. [00:21:06] Speaker C: Even though it's not an mmp. [00:21:08] Speaker B: It's close enough. [00:21:10] Speaker C: It's fine. No, I actually told. I told Tib that he could make it with that. He's like, it's not an M and P. I'm like, yeah, it's a Smith. It's fine. [00:21:16] Speaker B: It's close. It looks. Looks just like it just shrunk down. But, yeah. [00:21:19] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a very condensed, tiny version. [00:21:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:22] Speaker C: I don't know. I actually don't know why they don't classify that. Because, like the. Because the Shield X, I don't think the bodyguard has ever been an M and P classification. But I don't know what they. I don't know, because it's a 380, you know, because the M and P stands for military and police. So I don't know if they're just like. Well, it's a 380, so it can't be like, military and police are never going to carry the bodyguard. [00:21:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:42] Speaker C: So I don't know if that's why. [00:21:43] Speaker A: Maybe that's its own category because, like, the Shield Bodyguard. Mmp. [00:21:46] Speaker C: Well, no, the shield is. [00:21:47] Speaker A: Is it still an MP version? [00:21:49] Speaker C: Yeah, I guess it's the M and P shield. [00:21:51] Speaker A: And then they have the easy so for, like, the easy slot. [00:21:53] Speaker C: So I don't. I don't know why they don't classify the bodyguard as under the M and P series, even though it looks like it. Like the Shield AX and The bodyguard are basically identical. One's just bigger than the other. [00:22:07] Speaker A: And it would be a great backup gun. Like as small as it is that the.380. The.380. [00:22:12] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:22:12] Speaker A: If you're like, hey, I want a primary a little bit. Throw it on your ankle, caliber 9 mil and then have a pocket pistol. [00:22:18] Speaker B: It's been my primary lately. Things awesome. [00:22:21] Speaker C: No, it's a. It's a good little pistol. I've got. I got no qualms with it. [00:22:25] Speaker A: I'm impressed with. With the bodyguard. I will say the caliber.380, I'm not a big component on. [00:22:32] Speaker C: Yeah, there's limitations to it, but it's a good pistol. [00:22:34] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. And Smith did a great job. There's other companies out there that mixed with the, the bullet, the weight, the grain, the powder burn, and the weight of the slide, there's so many failures, problems. I don't think we sat any. Any hiccups with it yesterday. It cycled like a dream. [00:22:50] Speaker B: No. Yeah, it does need to. It does need to stay clean. That's one of the things which I think there's a little bit of a break in period with it as well. I remember when we first went out and shot it. We'd. We had a few. [00:22:58] Speaker C: We had a few cycling issues, but it was fine after. [00:23:00] Speaker B: And then we'd oil it and it would be. It'd go back to working okay. So I probably only shot 4 mags through it or so yesterday. As soon as it came back, I got it all oiled up again. But yeah, so that was great. And then the three of us, all four. There's four of us. Tib is not with us today. The four of us. Anna brought my. Brought my dad who went to Pittsburgh over the weekend, and we went and kind of hung out in the city. Nate kind of give us a tour of some. [00:23:34] Speaker C: Some of the main spots. [00:23:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Main spots of Pittsburgh, which. It was a beautiful day. And then we got to go see the Penguins play the Bruins. So Tib is from Rhode Island. He's a Bees fan. So we brought him to Pittsburgh to watch the Penn's Bees game. And that was a lot of fun. I mean, it was an. It was an amazing game. [00:23:54] Speaker C: We might as well just have shown up for the last period, though. Yeah, the first. The first two periods. [00:23:59] Speaker B: First two periods. I was like, this is. [00:24:01] Speaker C: I mean, hockey is always fun. But the Bruins owned the first two periods, and the Penguins just. I don't know even know why they were there. [00:24:08] Speaker B: So it was 3, 1 going into, going into the third period. [00:24:11] Speaker C: And the only reason, the only reason they had that one, the Penguins had the one goal they had was because the Bruins had two guys off the ice. [00:24:19] Speaker B: Oh yeah, yeah. [00:24:20] Speaker C: It was a five on three penalty kill or. Nope, power play. Power play. Sorry, other way. It was a 5 on 3 power play for the Penguins is the only reason they got that, that goal. [00:24:32] Speaker B: But, and then also one of the, one of the bees goals at that point was also because our, our goalie flubbed, absolutely flubbed the puck and handed over and the guy. But the third period, however, was a [00:24:44] Speaker C: game, was an actual game. [00:24:46] Speaker B: Insane. Depends on him coming back from a 31 deficit to win 54 in overtime. And oh yeah, I mean they showed up. [00:24:54] Speaker C: They actually played the third period and [00:24:55] Speaker A: the one of them was, I'm calling it a trick shot, but he was fighting the puck and then he just like behind the back, back handed it. Yeah. And it just goes and makes. That was a tie up too. [00:25:06] Speaker B: He caught the goalie sleeping because the goalie did not see that coming. [00:25:09] Speaker A: No, I didn't see that. [00:25:09] Speaker C: I mean it was, it was, it was an actual game. The last period was an actual game, which was great. Don't get me wrong. The whole game was fun. It was, it's always fun to watch hockey in NHL. They play faster, harder, stronger. It's just in general is better than any other, any other hockey. But the last period was the only one that actually mattered. The first two is like, well, this is fine. Yeah, the last period was good, but [00:25:32] Speaker B: we got to tip, kind of got to gloated us for two periods and then we got to, I mean he [00:25:39] Speaker C: even had some gloating in the third period. Really? Yeah, because they did score. They did score again. They played hard. The Bruins still played hard in the third period even though the Pens came back. I mean those two back to back goals were kind of shocking. I mean it was a goal followed by an immediate goal to get tied up at three. That was shocking. [00:26:00] Speaker A: Guys almost got hit by a puck too. [00:26:03] Speaker C: Well, that was before everything started. That doesn't count. I tried to catch it with my left hand, which is just stupid. But yeah, I mean it was a great game. A lot of fun to watch. [00:26:15] Speaker A: And they had a, I don't know, a minigun T shirt launcher. [00:26:20] Speaker B: Oh yeah, yeah, that was cool. [00:26:21] Speaker A: That was cool. [00:26:22] Speaker B: I, I, I've been to a game. It might have been the Pens game. They had the thing mounted to like a truck or something. And so they actually drove around the [00:26:29] Speaker C: ice and and shot. [00:26:31] Speaker B: Shot it up into it. This time it was actually like. It was like right. It was right behind us. Right behind. And it was. It's. It's a giant. Yeah. It looks like our. Our 35 millimeter flare gun back behind us. A bunch of. A bunch of T shirts on it. I think it's pretty sweet. [00:26:47] Speaker C: Right there. Right behind me. [00:26:50] Speaker A: We can touch it. This is pre recorded. [00:26:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:52] Speaker C: Well, yeah, but I'd have to actually get up and grab it. That's too much work. [00:26:56] Speaker B: But actually my voice sounds like this because I was screaming at the game. At the game. Many times. Lots of screaming. [00:27:04] Speaker A: We had some good memories. [00:27:05] Speaker B: Voices come back. Yeah. [00:27:07] Speaker A: Coffee. I didn't like my coffee, but my coffee was good. Milkshake. Milkshake was good. [00:27:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:27:12] Speaker B: And then Michael says, I've been reading the encyclopedia of Cats. [00:27:17] Speaker A: Yeah, apparently. [00:27:18] Speaker B: How's that been? [00:27:19] Speaker A: Because I'm busy and you guys like to fill in the blanks. I didn't do it on the notes. No, Honestly, we traveled this past weekend. It was a full, full throttle weekend. Saturday I had my first pcsl. Saying the acronym right. Two gun mats to start the season. I did good. I shot fifth overall. I shot 85% of Tanner. Tanner's a GM and carry optics. He's sponsored with Atlas and then tone easy. He's also a GM PCC 2 gun shooter. [00:27:52] Speaker C: How'd he do? [00:27:53] Speaker A: He came in second. He shot 96%. Okay. So shooting just about 130 points behind Tanner, which sounds. It is a lot. It is a lot. 30 seconds time. Our hits were. [00:28:04] Speaker B: Were right. [00:28:05] Speaker A: Very similar in the same. Which tells me I can increase my speed as long as I can maintain the proficiency. But it was a good overall match for me. Just kind of go out and shoot the rifle, shoot the pistol, and kind of knock the cobwebs off. I mean, I've been. I've been shooting and training kind of nonstop, but to get back into the swing of competitive shooting. And then Sunday we traveled to the game. So they had a competition carry optics match or USPSA match on Sunday. So that was the first one of the season with gss, but we had hockey and it was worth it. And I got milkshakes and I got a delicious lunch. So this week's been kind of busy too. We're trying to get everything done for the week, prepare for what's upcoming next week with, you know, St. Patrick's Day and so forth. But I'm also heading out of town. Friday morning. I'm heading to Texas. So super excited about going to Texas. I'm going to be with Hardhead veterans and doing the rattlesnake roundup event. Hi Submitted some video content utilizing the product, won the trip down there and I'm going to do some exotic hunting. I don't know how exotic it's going to be other than go shoot some rattlesnakes potentially. We're going to an event that evening that's going to be like dinner, music festival kind of deal. Go tour the headquarters, shoot some media, meet some of the team and the staff and it's all, all covered. The whole trip's covered. [00:29:26] Speaker C: It'll be fun. It's awesome. [00:29:27] Speaker A: So I'm looking forward to that. The traveling part. I'm not taking a gun. I really thought about it. They're like, hey, we'll, we'll cover, you know, all, we'll reimburse everything. And I was really thinking about it, but I fly out. I don't know why I do this to myself. We're like 6am again and then Sunday morning I'm riding with some of the HHV team. They're heading out of town. So I'm leaving at like 4:00am So I, I was going to take a gun and take all my gear and I'm like, I'm, I'm packing light this trip. [00:29:58] Speaker C: Are you going to bring your helmet or. No? [00:29:59] Speaker A: I thought about it and I'm still kind of contemplating because I could probably throw it in a backpack and a carry on or bring my Audi bag. So maybe potentially, I know they have the whole facility and they'll probably have everything there. So we'll see. That's kind of the, the task this afternoon. Excuse me, is laundry starting to get packed up, prepare for this trip? But I'm, I'm excited nonetheless. That's kind of what's going on this weekend. And then this month there's a couple of USPSA matches I'm going to try to squeeze in and see. And then I've got to get prepared because come April I've got another class, so. [00:30:37] Speaker C: Sweet. [00:30:38] Speaker A: Kick off the season with teaching again. [00:30:40] Speaker B: Awesome. Good deal. Well, so I thought, I thought today I just, I asked the guys if there's anything that they wanted to kind of bring bring forward as far as, you know, news, current events, gear, that sort of thing. I've actually picked a few guns that we've had for a while now that I'm looking forward to just talking about and I kind of want to get everybody's thoughts and opinions like the three of us have shot these a handful of times when we've been at the range. We have the Lone Wolf, Dusk 19 and Timberwolf 19 here. Nice thing is we can actually, since we're pre recording this, we can actually touch them. [00:31:19] Speaker A: It's like I'm hesitant to reach and grab it. [00:31:22] Speaker B: So basically they are a Glock clone. You're holding that one. You're holding the Timberwolf. Timberwolf, yep. What do you like about. About the Timberwolf? [00:31:33] Speaker C: So of the two, I prefer the timberwolf over the dust 19. There's. I like the ergonomics that they built into the frame on the Timberwolf. So they did a couple things. So they have a deeper undercut on the trigger guard, so you're already deeper. Something that most of the. The stipplers and everything in the world will do is they give you that nice deep undercut so you can get nice and high on the. The grip there. They've got a built in. Well, maybe not built in. I think you may be able to remove it. But they have a Magwell from the factory that's got aggressive. What are these called? Serrations. [00:32:12] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:32:13] Speaker C: Serrations. I honestly like the way it looks. They take a Glock and. Or a Glock clone and make it just a little. I don't know, they give it some, you know, angles and that kind of stuff. Some chamfers some personality. It's not just a box. I mean it is a box. [00:32:31] Speaker B: But it's funny though, is not as I look at it now, like it counts like a gen 6. [00:32:35] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean but they did it first so we'll give them the credit on it. [00:32:38] Speaker B: This was around before Gen 6, but it looks like a Gen 6. [00:32:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:41] Speaker B: Same kind of like texture on the grip is very much like a Gen 6. Yeah. [00:32:45] Speaker C: Yeah, very similar. So it is. [00:32:48] Speaker B: It is. [00:32:49] Speaker C: I think the. I do believe you. I think you had the specific. Yeah, I got a bunch of. But I don't remember. I do think they did a more typical grip angle. I think they tried to get away from the Glock grip angle on these, which I do appreciate. That's one of the things I don't like about Glock is their grip angle. And I think they tried to get away with that with both of the dust 19 and the timberwolf. [00:33:12] Speaker B: Enhanced grip angle promotes a more naturally pointed handgun. [00:33:17] Speaker C: I think they're going for the. I don't remember the degrees. [00:33:20] Speaker B: It doesn't. It doesn't say degrees. It just says enhanced grip angle. [00:33:23] Speaker C: So I think it's more towards what [00:33:27] Speaker B: the non Glock is. [00:33:29] Speaker C: Grip angle. I don't know that it's fully there but it's, it's. It's pushing that direction. But I prefer the, the timberwolf to the dust 19. There's a couple things on the dust 19 that in terms of the frame we've talked about. You guys can cover it if you [00:33:44] Speaker B: want but yeah, we talk about the Dusk next that I don't love. But so here's the thing about just so a few notes on is normally a 700 gun. I did go onto the website before the meeting and before the podcast and it's on sale for 594. [00:34:00] Speaker C: Well there you go. [00:34:01] Speaker B: So it's not bad. Yeah, it's better I think. I think 7 is a bit much for it probably but 594, I know you're $5 away from 600 but to me that's a little better. So it does come with night vision sights Sights on comes with it is it is compatible with RMR SRO and Hollow Sun 507, 407. [00:34:33] Speaker C: So it doesn't need a, it doesn't need a plate. Right. So it's just direct mount which I [00:34:37] Speaker B: love that I do. I. Yeah I much prefer not needing a plate. Other notable things. [00:34:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean just to make note of the price point. I mean at the $700 price point before the sell, I mean you are getting the Magwell, the suppressor height, sights, what it looks like. Yeah, they're definitely better sites night sights which they add about $120 just for the night sights and then you've already got the cut, the RMR cut for it. So that's kind of expensive for the RMR cut just in itself alone. [00:35:09] Speaker B: So I do think that's all the controls are extended. [00:35:12] Speaker A: That may be a fair entry point. But I haven't bought a pistol in forever to to be able to honestly tell you or give you an accurate assessment. [00:35:21] Speaker C: I mean the hard part is people always would say like glocks are a $500 gun, but there isn't a $500 Glock. [00:35:26] Speaker B: No. [00:35:27] Speaker A: No. [00:35:27] Speaker C: Glock itself the brand. I'm not going to say that there isn't clones that are that price. But Glock is no longer a $500 gun. So I don't know. You know. [00:35:36] Speaker B: And here's the other cool thing about it. It's made in the U.S. yeah. So there's honestly not many guns that are made in the US anymore. [00:35:42] Speaker C: Yeah. So you can take that which is pretty Cool. [00:35:44] Speaker B: Yeah. That means, that means something to some [00:35:47] Speaker A: people and they haven't maybe their stock trigger, but a different modification to a trigger than what Glock is. [00:35:54] Speaker C: And I do believe. I don't know if it says that in there. Greg. I think this is a Gen 3. [00:35:59] Speaker B: So it says Gen 3 and Gen 4 compatible. When removing the dust cover adapter, I [00:36:05] Speaker C: think you can go get a Gen 3 or Gen 4 Glock performance trigger. If you like their Glock performance trigger, you can put that stuff in here. So if you like some of those aftermarket parts, you still have the capability, which is cool. [00:36:24] Speaker B: And then the other one I have Here is the dusk 19. It retails for 650. It is always out of stock. Gonna be honest, I feel like every time I go to look at the website it's out of stock. Which maybe is because people like them so much and it's popular. The Nate, what's your. You know, kind of your initial. I, I've, I, I've got a couple things that I struggle with on it. But what's your. What's your overthought? So you get sincere hand though. [00:36:49] Speaker C: So the positives are all similar to the, to the Timberwolf. Grip angle is good. They do the deep undercut. I actually really do like the, the texture. Texture is really nice. They kind of do this rounded off grip in general with it almost is like a grip panel. You can't remove it. But it. [00:37:10] Speaker B: That one doesn't. I was gonna say I think they all have. Do have removable grip panels. Yeah, I think it does. [00:37:16] Speaker C: I think you knock out well on the back. I'm talking about the size. [00:37:19] Speaker B: I'm sorry. [00:37:19] Speaker C: I mean it looks like like the 1911 style grip panels on the side. I just, I think that all feels nice in the hand again. I think it's got the RMR compatible slide cut, all of that stuff. So that's all good. There's just. It bites. There's a particular spot I don't remember. Yeah, that bite's kind of goofy. [00:37:39] Speaker B: I've got a couple complaints with the. [00:37:42] Speaker C: But it's only this one. The Timberwolf doesn't do that. [00:37:45] Speaker B: Timberwolf's fine. So I have a couple of things with. This is one, it's weird. I'm not pointing this at mic. I swear the grip tapers as it goes down which. That's weird. I don't know why it tapers at the bottom. [00:37:59] Speaker C: It feels like it's harder to grab. [00:38:00] Speaker B: It just. It feels weird in the hand and then. Yeah on the, on the ins. Yeah, it's this one, right? Yeah. We'll try to get you guys on camera better. Look at this. The, the. Where the beaver tail is. They kind of got all cute with the angles and these like chamfers. And the way that my grip is the ch. The point. These chamfers come to a point and that point comes. Hits me right on my thumb knuckle. Cause I ride my thumb high. I think if you're somebody that rides your thumb low, it might not. Might not be an issue. But every time we've tried to shoot that gun, I've. I've not been able to shoot it very long. It's too dark, too dark. I've not been able to shoot it much because that. That point, it just bites. Bites and hits my knuckle every time. That's. Now you could easily grab a Dremel and get rid of that problem very quickly if you're willing to do that to a new $650 gun. [00:39:00] Speaker A: I think it's a preference too. Yeah, everybody has a preference on if you like the Glock grip or you don't like the Glock grip. For me, I never really had a problem with the Glock grip per se. I mean, I guess that's the way we're going to call it, the Glock grip. But I carried the 19x for years and it's a good gun. It still runs great. But again, it's preference based. Now, I will agree with you. I like this grip better than I like that one. But I also don't like how it tapers off toward the end. [00:39:32] Speaker B: See, I don't think that one tapers. [00:39:33] Speaker A: Is it? [00:39:33] Speaker C: I don't think it's as aggressive. [00:39:35] Speaker A: It does not aggressive as this one. [00:39:37] Speaker C: But it has a Magwell, which has a Magwell. Yep. [00:39:39] Speaker A: Where that one for me is, I like to be able to grip a gun where I have the full grip of the gun. I'm not depending on a Magwell or a magazine to solidify the rest of my grip behind it or behind the platform. I did not get a lot of time shooting these. I think I got maybe half a mag or a mag with. With each one with you guys, more or less. I was behind the camera as you guys shot them. So the grip for this one, no problem. Again, I like the Glock grip. This one, again, there's a little bit difference. I would definitely say I agree with you, Greg, with that. That tapering off on the end if the frame was a little bit longer. But I guess the point of it was going for more of a subcompact. [00:40:18] Speaker B: Yeah, this is, this is your 19 grip on the dusk and it's a 17 grip on the Timberwolf. [00:40:23] Speaker A: Yeah. So I definitely, I definitely would say I'd probably lean on this one more of. I like full size guns. I care typically for full size other than the 43x but I think more time behind them shooting them and really putting some optics on them and getting them. [00:40:38] Speaker B: Yeah, they need optics too. We brought them to the range yesterday when I realized I didn't have an optic on it. I didn't want to shoot it because. Because I'm an optic snob. Like I guess the important to note on both of these that it's not going to work with your Glock holsters. The Timberwolf might. [00:40:52] Speaker C: I think Timberwolf would. [00:40:54] Speaker B: The Dusk definitely is going to need its own holster. The trigger guard on it is very weird shaped. But you know, looking at made in USA Glock options I think is very interesting. I think one of my things is when we first got those I assumed that because they're a Glock clone that they'd be cheaper but they are like the same price as a Glock. So you to me, you really are going to want. Are going to have to want this gun over a real Glock. Do you think that's a. Yeah, I [00:41:38] Speaker C: mean there's a few aspects to. Yes. I don't disagree with what you're saying. The Gen 6. So these have been out for a couple of years or a year? No, a couple years. They've been out for a couple years. So I think they have a lot of features that Glock has now come out with with the Gen 6. That made them a little bit more attractive. If you were looking for those features that you could just get straight out of the box and you weren't going to send it off to have someone do any work to it or anything like that, which is nice, you know. [00:42:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:08] Speaker C: I mean we know how slow Glock is to change anything. How they'll make improvements in some ways with the new generation but remove some of the improvements from the old one when they do that. So I think in that way these were better than a Glock at this point. I think you're just which one would you want better? Do you want made in the usa? Do you want some of those features? I mean I like these guns now we all know that I'm not a Glock guy anyways. It's not. I'm probably not going to rush out and buy. I'm not going to rush out and buy a Glock, so I'm not going to rush out and buy this either because that's just not my. Those are not my guns. But I think it's a good gun. I like it. [00:42:51] Speaker B: Yeah. So as far, again, it's like we have thousands of rounds through each of these, but they've been great. They've not had any issues from whatsoever. At least several hundred rounds. So we put through each one without any. [00:43:04] Speaker C: Any maintenance, like. [00:43:05] Speaker B: Yeah, no, they're. They're straight out of the box. We've not oiled them. [00:43:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:43:09] Speaker B: Clean them. [00:43:09] Speaker C: They shot. I mean, we've done no preventative anything maintenance to these and they've shot just fine. So I mean, from a perspective of guess what they're going to do what they're supposed to do. So that's. That's fine. I have no qualms with them. [00:43:23] Speaker B: What's also cool? Which, which one is it? Can you go with the Lucky Sevens? [00:43:26] Speaker C: Straight from them. It was the, the dust 19 that they did a collab with Monsoon. I don't know if they're still doing [00:43:31] Speaker B: it or not, so. But I think I saw it when I was on the website before the. [00:43:35] Speaker C: Which is cool. [00:43:36] Speaker B: Yeah. So they, they partnered up with. As Nate said, they partner up with. With Monsoon Tactical. We've had Vinny on here before and. And it's kind of cool. You can, you can get a. Essentially a stock gun with a custom porting job on it from. From Monsoon. I mean, it's. It's not like. It's not like Lone Wolf is doing the porting with some licensing. They actually send them to Vinnie and he does them and they do them there. So. Yeah, so that's. It's pretty cool that they. Instead of being like some other gun companies where they copy Vinnie, they actually reach out and work with Vinnie instead. So that makes me a big fan of, of, of these guys too. So. But as with any pro, there are cons. He's got to figure out if it's [00:44:26] Speaker C: what do you want. [00:44:26] Speaker B: But yeah, figure out what you want. [00:44:28] Speaker C: We want. It's really what it comes down to. It isn't a price difference. We can say that. Like, it's not. If, if you're doing it based on price, I. It's not cheaper. [00:44:40] Speaker B: But as you guys both pointed out, the fact that you get at least on the Timberwolf, you get the Magwell, you actually get nice sights. [00:44:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:47] Speaker B: Just those two things alone are probably [00:44:49] Speaker C: worth at least A hundred. A couple hundred bucks. [00:44:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:52] Speaker A: Yeah. And they're both optic ready. So having that. I mean, you can look at it. And from that to a Glock, the serrations on these are way more aggressive. Even. Even the grip Mountain, maybe the gym gen 6 for the frame and everything, the grip. But this is definitely. [00:45:05] Speaker B: And you don't have to use. [00:45:06] Speaker A: They put some work in putting some aesthetic value behind the product, not just the ability and capability of performance. [00:45:13] Speaker C: I mean, I would. I would take that Timberwolf, and I would do nothing to it except put an optic on it. [00:45:17] Speaker A: Put an optic on it? [00:45:18] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, I would be perfectly happy with that pistol as it is and just put an optic on it and be fine with that gun. [00:45:26] Speaker A: Now let's see. A threaded barrel so we can throw a suppressor on. [00:45:29] Speaker C: Oh, sure. But you know what I'm saying, though? Like that. That's what I'm saying. Like, I could. I. I would be if my. They said this is the gun you have to have with an optic, but yeah, that's a great gun. [00:45:38] Speaker B: And I say you don't have to use the goofy mos. [00:45:41] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, there's no plates. I love the fact that it's directly to the. The slide. That's great. So all of that, to me is a big positive too. [00:45:49] Speaker A: And mags. What about mags? Have we touched on mags? [00:45:51] Speaker B: It uses Glock mags. It comes with KCI or something like that. Yeah. [00:45:55] Speaker C: But it can use Glock mags. [00:45:56] Speaker B: But it can use Glock mags, too. So if you already have Glock, then you're good there. [00:46:00] Speaker C: Good. [00:46:00] Speaker A: Which we use KCI mags on the range too. With the rifle mags. [00:46:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:04] Speaker B: Use the mech you can use. Yeah. There's so many options out now. [00:46:07] Speaker C: Yeah. That is the nice part is if you are a Glock guy and you have a bunch of mags, they're compatible. And Glock mags are cheap and super preferable. Or super not preferable. Super prevalent. So easy to get. So that's not a problem. So all of that is a win for this as well. It's a easily supported platform. Like I said, it's gen 3. You said gen 3 slash, gen 4 compatible. So if you want aftermarket parts, just go buy Glock Gen 34 parts and you can work with them that way too. [00:46:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:40] Speaker C: So that's all a win in my. To me, those are all wins for the platform. [00:46:44] Speaker B: There are more wins than there are cons. Again, I think really my. My biggest con, that would stop me from buying either one of them is on that dusk that the chamfer on the beaver tail. Yeah, it just actually hurt to shoot. But outside of that I think they're great. What'd you want to talk about? [00:47:04] Speaker C: Yeah, so you actually started touching on it a little bit which was porting. So I pulled up an article which is generally talking about Kimber releasing a comped version of their 2K11. So Kimber hit the 2011 market with their 2K11 sometime in the last year, year and a half, which is their performance 2011 type style pistol. And then at shot they announced a comped version, slash ported version. Now I actually haven't gotten my hands on it. A lot of people are saying some really neat stuff about the 2k11 worth checking out. But what I really wanted to talk about is the fact that you're seeing from the factory more and more companies releasing ported slash comped versions of pistols. And I'm not talking about like we know like the Sig macro, The X or Sig365 macro has been out there for a while but that really wasn't a true ported gun. It's just a shorter barrel with a chunk of the slide cut out. But I'm talking about a hole in your barrel with a hole in your slide to allow gases to escape. And you're seeing more and more of that coming factory, which I think is, is cool. I think that one of the things that you're seeing is the market. You're seeing these manufacturers responding to, seeing all of these after market companies doing that. So the monsoon tacticals of the world. I'm trying to, I'm trying to remember. I'm sorry, I'm not going to remember all of the different. There's a lot of, a lot of aftermarket companies that are doing porting for you. Floyd's custom shop Defiant machine works like these guys are all doing porting on pistols. So you could buy for example a dusk 19 or a timberwolf and then send it off to these guys and have it ported with their signature porting. So your lucky sevens, your chunk port or any of those named ports. But a lot of these manufacturers are saying oh that's it's doing something so we should take a chunk of that market. So excuse me, Smith and Wesson is doing it, Kimber's doing it. We're seeing a lot of these companies taking a page out of these custom shop books. Now one of the things that I would caution people is it does seem to me that their performance isn't as good. [00:49:26] Speaker B: I was just gonna go down that [00:49:26] Speaker C: road as the custom shop. It seems like the custom shop folks are being more aggressive in a positive way. They have testing behind it. They're not just cutting, drilling holes. And I guess be careful if it's just your local guy with a machine, do some vetting on him, see if he's doing some testing. But you've got Monsoon Tactical. They have years and plenty of experience and time behind these guns to make sure the ports are actually doing something. Defiant Machine Works has done the same thing. Floyd's custom shop has been doing the same thing. In fact, several of these folks I know for sure, Monsoon and Floyd's actually do this for some of these large manufacturers are providing some of those services. In this case, you know, Vinnie did a collab with Lone Wolf or I think it's Lone Wolf. Yeah, Lone Wolf to you know, provide that service for him. So some of these custom shops are actually getting the opportunity to do that work for these larger companies which I think is also super cool. But my point is a lot of these companies are looking at that and taking a page out of their book and providing these porting straight from the factory. Like you bought your bodyguard with a port straight out of the. Straight from the factory. Now you could send the non ported bodyguard to Vinnie and he would do his version of that port which I would venture to say is probably going to perform slightly better than the one that you got from the factory because it's going to be slightly bigger, it's going to be chambered differently because the one that you got is probably a little bit smaller. And they're going to be more conservative from the factory than they are from these custom shops. But I understand why they're going to. They want to make sure that the gun still performs and all this other stuff. But I just think it's neat we're seeing response from manufacturers to do the thing. One of the things that Smith did and they announced that it shot is they released a. They called it the Spec 6. They did a one of their aluminum framed concealed or I'm excuse me, compact M and P. So it's the 15 round 4 inch barrel. They actually collabed with Floyd's. I don't know if Floyd's did the porting. I think they may have but they at least collabed with them on the Magwell and Mag bases. But the gun comes cerakoted with porting with a custom cut on the slide, comes with an Acro and all of that stuff. So it's a basically custom gun that you can buy straight from the factory. Now, the price point is higher than buying it. You know, buying just the gun and then doing it. But if you actually specked out, buying the gun and buying all the other stuff, sending it off to someone and have them doing it, you're actually going to get it cheaper from the manufacturer than sending it off to your local folks. And do that. [00:52:09] Speaker B: And with the warranties, it's still intact. Yeah. [00:52:11] Speaker C: You know, you know, not voiding anything. [00:52:15] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Avoiding a warranty. I agree with what you said. It from my experience on the, on the guns that I've bought that have come ported, I've not been super convinced that it does a lot. We actually did a video back when I first got my X Macro. I had my Sig xl, which is the same length slide as X Macro. I did a side by side video. [00:52:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:52:42] Speaker B: And we, you know, did the slow mo. We showed the rise and the fall of the, of the, of the recoil and everything like that. And there's really couldn't tell much difference. But on the guns that I have that are, that are ported or comped aftermarket, I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that all of those did. [00:53:05] Speaker C: Now I will say this, and this is my one caveat to that is the X macro is not ported. It's a shorter barrel. [00:53:12] Speaker B: It's more of a comp. [00:53:13] Speaker C: And even then, it's not a great comp because if you look at the way they did the slide, they don't create a chamber or anything. It's just the slide is just open. [00:53:22] Speaker B: There's not much slide material there where the gases. For the gases to hit. Where if you were to look at a true comp. True comp. That what you want is as much surface area for those gases to hit. [00:53:33] Speaker C: Yeah. So Sig just kind of did a [00:53:36] Speaker B: thing and that's where I. It is, it is cool to see these companies do it, but I feel like a lot of times it's just marketing. [00:53:45] Speaker C: Yeah. But it's happening more and more is all I'm saying. And I'm excited to see a response. It means that these big manufacturers are seeing motion. They're seeing people want something and they're responding to it. Like it goes back to what I said earlier, where we know how slow it is for Glock to make changes to their stuff. Their generational changes are infinitesimal. And change, you're like, well, you just got rid of finger grooves, then you added finger grooves back. How is that Big of a change between one to the next. And then now we're seeing, okay, the market wants this, so let's at least give them something. Which I like that it's, it's, it's more than just, we'll let them handle it. [00:54:30] Speaker A: You know, it's better than the market throwing something at the wall and hoping it sticks and then getting the negative feedback. Now they're at least coming with, okay, we heard you. [00:54:39] Speaker C: Yep. [00:54:40] Speaker A: We're creating something that works for you. Yeah, I like it personally. I mean, in the, the realm of competition. Yeah. Ports and, and cuts and everything are night and day difference, but it's also a different class and completely different class from striker fire to 1911 production guns, open guns. [00:55:03] Speaker B: And that's a, that's even more reason to, to pay attention to how effective those ports and stuff are. [00:55:12] Speaker C: Oh, absolutely. [00:55:12] Speaker B: Because if you're going to take that gun and go shoot open class in [00:55:16] Speaker C: a match, you want to make sure it's the most effective. [00:55:18] Speaker B: It needs to be effective. Otherwise you're just handicapping yourself by making. By having a gun that actually isn't shooting. [00:55:24] Speaker C: Oh, absolutely. [00:55:25] Speaker B: Yeah. That's. Yeah, it's kind of. [00:55:27] Speaker C: No, no arguments there for sure. If, if you are buying it with competition in mind, then absolutely, you should go buy a stock gun and send it to somebody that. That is their expertise for sure. [00:55:38] Speaker A: And it's not to say that there's good companies in, even in this 2011 case, that they probably have great open gun starting out, but at the, I guess it's at the level that you're going to compete and how serious you're going to be about it. Like, if you're going to go into something where you have ports and opens and comps, you're going to spend the money for it and you want it to be, you know, dialed in, you know, two fingers, the slide moves like butter kind of deal. That looks beautiful. I'd like to get my hands on it and shoot it. [00:56:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:08] Speaker A: And I don't know for sure because I saw your Prodigy. Right. The Springfield when we went out on the range. It was a. Was it a Prodigy? [00:56:15] Speaker C: Yeah. So I have a Prodigy. [00:56:16] Speaker A: Are they porting them now? [00:56:17] Speaker C: You can get a ported Prodigy. [00:56:19] Speaker A: Yeah. So it is almost like every main manufacturer. Yeah. [00:56:22] Speaker C: I mean, I think I shouldn't say every model is going to have an option, but. Right. Of course, most of the major manufacturers are now making a pistol that is [00:56:32] Speaker A: ported, except for Beretta, because there's no slot. There's a facetiousness for their M9A3 because it's just a barrel and you have hardly any slot at all actually. [00:56:41] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't know if Brett is. I know there's people that are doing it too. [00:56:44] Speaker A: Oh, I would do it too at Beretta too. [00:56:45] Speaker C: I mean Langdon Tactical you can buy their setups, they port it. But anyways, yeah, I mean most major, major manufacturers take Glock away from that. They're not in it. But most major manufacturers are coming out with some ported options of some sort, which I just, I like seeing them responding to what all of these smaller custom shops are doing now. Again, understanding that the custom shop probably is going to do it better for sure. But if you want something and because I do think there is an aspect of our market where they are, there's folks that are like, I like that, but I can't afford to buy a pistol and then also send it off because there is a lot of expense to it. Right. Buying a pistol by itself is an expense. If you then have to send it off to get more work done to it, that's a lot of money. There's a lot of exchanging where if you can buy it for only because most of those porting jobs are only going to be 50 to $75 more expensive than the non ported version. If you only have to spend that much more, you can at least get something that performs at least a little bit better than the non ported version without having to spend a couple hundred to 500 extra dollars to get it sent off, ported, cerakoted and then brought back to you. So it's just, I like the response of major manufacturers in that market. I think that's neat also. [00:58:10] Speaker A: No problem. I also like years ago we were doing compensators and the comps were adding 2, 3, 4 inches. A little bit of exaggeration on the 4 inches, but we don't know our measurements right. But the compensators were adding so much extra length and now these guns are already custom built, set up, ready to run like that. So you're not, you know, trying to find another holster because now it won't fit the holster that comes with the gun. [00:58:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:37] Speaker C: Anyways, we're good. [00:58:39] Speaker B: We got some gun chat for you today because again we're pre recording this. We can actually hold guns and show them to you guys. Although we didn't really get too, too close on these. Maybe we can get some, some shots for you guys afterwards. But to move on to kind of our last segment for today, our Faith and Fuel segment, I Pulled a verse out of Romans 12 that, that I've been thinking about lately. I'm. I'm curious what, what thoughts you guys had to add to this. Just as the. As the world continues to be. Be violent and there's wars and there's. There's unrest and there. And there's all these things, I just. I. I was, I was thinking about this verse in Romans 12, Romans 12, 14, 18. I would actually recommend going and reading this whole section. The whole section of Romans. Kind of the subheading for it is something like marks of a true Christian. So if you are a Christian, if you call yourself a Christian, a Christ follower, there's actually a long list of characteristics that, that we should have. So I'm going to go ahead and just. I just pulled this section out of here. These are things we should do. Bless those who persecute you. Bless and do not curse them. Rejoice with those who rejoice. Weep with those who weep. Live in harmony with one. Live in harmony with one another. Do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly. Never be wise in your own sight. Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all, if possible, so far as it depends on you. Live peaceably with all. So I was just. This is. As I read those things, that is like the opposite of what we see, at least on, you know, social media and stuff like that. It seems to kind of be the opposite of. Of how people are. Are acting. And I got it. And, and this is something that, like I'm. I'm not. I'm not pointing, you know, fingers outward. I'm also pointing at myself as well. There are things that I struggle with in here as well. Like when I see. When I see some of these things happen, I just want to, like, I want to react. And it might not be treach in the white way, in the right way. You guys have any thoughts on this? [01:01:14] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I mean, some of the notes that I put in here too. Just reading the verse, it, as you said, you can point outward, right, and read this verse to other people, so it makes sense. But it's also in the same. I'm reflecting inward and saying, okay, how. How can I interpret this and how can I use this? And this is kind of what I typed in and what I got some notes out of it was we can all return insult for insult. Like, we can be rude to the person that's rude to us, and we can be hateful or we can be like God tells us to be, and show grace in those that are rude to us or that are hurtful to us. We can show humility and pray for that person. And, you know, a lot easier said than done, right? But when people do wrong, instead of meeting that wrong was wrong, we meet them with love, with grace and humility. And like I said, it's a lot harder to do. But for me, it's. It's almost like choosing that piece over the conflict. And from a customer service standpoint, how this can relate to the Bible verse, right, From a customer service standpoint is sometimes people, you can give them the answer and it's still that it doesn't justify the answer that they want. And then they get mad at you or they're not happy or the price isn't right, or they don't know how to utilize a product correctly yet, so they're having errors and they're mad at you about it. And instead of, this has been grace from you guys helping me over the years too. Instead of being like, well, you're dumb, like, or being like, well, you don't know how to use the product or you're just stupid, you send it back. It's like, no, let me help you. Let, let me walk you through this. And you can be mad at me, but at the end of it, they're thankful, right? So I think in this Bible verse, to sum it up in, on the tangent aside, is express humility, let go of ego. And those who do you wrong, pray for them. And even in grievance or in pain, because they may be hiding something that you don't know. And that their way of expressing that pain or whatever they're going through in their life may be that. That bullying or that being rude or hard to others, because that's maybe all they've done. [01:03:22] Speaker B: So, yeah, that's good. [01:03:25] Speaker C: I mean, one of the goals if you are a Christ follower is to spread the gospel. And we're called to be different and look different. And if we just act like everybody [01:03:35] Speaker A: else, [01:03:38] Speaker C: there's no point, because there's no difference. All of these things are truly in opposition to what the world would say, which is if somebody does wrong to you, do wrong back. If somebody does you wrong, then don't give them things. Don't give any of that. Don't give them. If you give somebody an inch, they'll take a mile. The reality of what we're called to do is to give without ceasing to love, without ceasing to care for those that don't care for us to love our neighbors, to do things that do set us apart. And the purpose of that, I mean, part of it is just to love people. But the reason that you're doing that is so that you can spread the gospel so they can also share in this wonderful gift that we've been giving. And if you don't look any different, then no one's going to be attracted to it. Nobody's going to know what it is that you believe and no one's going to ask you unless you are literally sitting there and saying it. But even the people that we know, there's plenty of people in the world that are not expressing, quote unquote, their faith in a loving, wonderful, opposite of the world manner. And they're not attractive. And people don't want to come and believe and chase after it because they're doing it in a hateful way. So love is attractive. People want to go to people that are loving, kind, caring, and that is attractive to people. So that's what we're being called for, is just to be set aside to be stood apart from the world so that we can attract more people, so more people can share in this end of world party that we all get to be a part of. That's what it's about. And that's all this is telling us to do. It's giving us the way to do that so that we can share that faith with other people. And by doing it is. I mean, essentially all these things come down to love. And unfortunately, it's all people that we don't want to love. [01:05:42] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [01:05:44] Speaker C: I mean, because it's, it's. I know there's a. Scripture talks about it. It's easy to love your brother. It's easy to love people that love you. It's hard to love people that don't love you or don't treat you well. Here are the people that need love. Here are the people you need to treat well. And why do we need to do that? Because they also need this salvation just as much as anyone else. [01:06:02] Speaker B: Yeah. One of the other notes I put here is just when you read through all this section in Romans, which again recommend reading through the whole thing. But even just in the section here, all of these things are external. All these things are. It's not like there's a list of, well, I should say in this list, it's not a list of here's things that you need to do for yourself to be a Christian. All these things are. If you are a Christ Father, if you are a Christian, these are all things that you do outwardly. These are all things that are outside of our own needs and we are thinking about how we treat others. Like you were saying. [01:06:40] Speaker C: Well, my subheading calls it love in action. [01:06:43] Speaker B: Right. [01:06:44] Speaker C: So it's not love in myself, which is, is all inside. Right. Like it's love in action. Action is doing something. If it's all internal, there's nothing happening. Like you don't know and sees what happens inside of me, which is all self love. You know, people talk about self love all the time. If it's inside, no one sees it in action. Is, isn't, is visible. People can see things happening. [01:07:10] Speaker B: So because if you want, if you want to repay evil for evil, you are doing that. [01:07:14] Speaker C: It's an action. [01:07:15] Speaker B: It's an action and it's, and it's an action out of your own, out of your own feeling instead of thinking about the feeling of the person that you are wanting to give evil back to. [01:07:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Your ego, your pride. [01:07:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So it just. In a world that is going to continue and to get worse because scripture tells us going to. And here's the, here's one of the things that I was, I always want to kind of mention too, like things still aren't as bad as what they've been before. [01:07:44] Speaker C: No. [01:07:45] Speaker B: If you read and read scripture, I mean, God wiped the earth because it was so sinful and bad. And when you read through the history through scripture, we see times where it is so much worse than what it is now, but it's going to continue to get worse. So for those of us who call ourselves Christians, this is where, where we, where we get labeled a hypocrite is when we call ourselves that when we put a Jesus follower in a scripture in our bio on social media. But then, but then you see a bunch of hateful and critical posts and stuff like that, that's where you get labeled a hypocrite. We should look different than what, than what the world acts as. And so just my encouragement for all of you who are still watching and listening is just go and read through Romans 12 and take note of each of. There are lists and if you were to actually go through and actually bullet point each of the things in that list, it is a very convicting list of things that we should be doing. And it's kind of a final point after that is like it's important to note this is not a list of things to do in order to be. This is not a works conversation Right. [01:09:17] Speaker C: It's an overflowing of your love. [01:09:20] Speaker B: Exactly. We should be chasing after God. We should be chasing after Christ so much that the love that we have for him overflows into how we treat other people. So don't go and read this and ignore the rest of scripture and everything like that and just, okay, this is my list and this is how I'm going to get into heaven, because that's not what this is at all. As Nate so well said, this is an overflow of our love for Christ that we treat others in this way. [01:09:47] Speaker A: And I want to add just one quick thing to that. Yes, there is so much going on in the world right now. There is war, there is evil. It knows no face, no place, no time. And we see it, we see so much destruction and we see pure hatred. Right? And I think that's the work of, of, of the devil just as much as there's God on your side. Turn off the news, turn off the tv, turn off all of the nonsense. Turn off all the live episodes of people in war and chaos. And sometimes, just as you encourage me a lot, pick up the book. Like, pick up the, the Bible. Pick up the book, read, dive into the word, dive into self reflection and time with God than, than seeing it. Because in a world of social media in 2026, we see everything at, like this at the click of our finger. We can see mutilation, war, debt, destruction and everything else. And instead of letting all that negativity cloud our mind and our judgment and drive some of that anger and resentment. Turn it off. Yeah, just turn it off. [01:10:47] Speaker B: Just go be with people. Because I, I, because I do think there's, I think there's several kind of realities. I'm using quote marks for this, who are listening. Like there's realities, right? There's like, I don't experience, I've never experienced the things that we see on, on, on media and that we read in social media, like even reading comments. I've never experienced any of those things in person. No, you guys, right? No, like everybody's, our media is going to show the worst of the worst. People are going to have, you know, have the guts to say things through, through social media that they would never have in person. Like, get off of those things and just go be, go be face to face with people. [01:11:29] Speaker A: As Nate said, what, last week or a couple weeks ago, go touch grass. Like. [01:11:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:33] Speaker C: Did I say that? [01:11:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:34] Speaker C: Wow, look at me. [01:11:37] Speaker A: Yeah, go touch grass, get out, be with people. Hang out with good people. And you said it too in your. In your video last week. Like go tell somebody you love them. Just call someone up, tell them you miss something and spend time with people that you care about. [01:11:50] Speaker C: Do that Copied me. I say that every Friday. [01:11:53] Speaker B: Well, for those who are watching, sorry we. We lost our video feed but I don't know if we still. We should. [01:12:00] Speaker C: I think the camera died. Yeah, it should be able to hear it. [01:12:03] Speaker B: Yeah. So hopefully kept listening. Really have much to see other than our our faces. Are you guys ready to wrap this up? [01:12:09] Speaker C: Let's do it. [01:12:10] Speaker B: All right, Michael, if you want to get that last section, [01:12:16] Speaker C: Thanks for tuning in to Life, Liberty and Equipped. If today's conversation challenged you, encouraged you, or helped you get more equipped to pursue your mission, share it with a friend, drop a comment and leave us a review. [01:12:28] Speaker B: Don't forget to hit the subscribe button and leave a review. What takes a few seconds to help turns into more opportunities to reach new people. [01:12:34] Speaker A: And if you're not already a part of the NeoMag Insiders club, now's the time. Get early access to NeoMag gear, exclusive content and front row seats to everything we're building. Go to theneomag.com to sign up. 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