AI Fakes | Poppies Of War Customs | Slow Is Good

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Podcast time. Welcome to Life, Liberty and Equipped Podcasts. I'm Greg Davis, founder of NeoMag and a firm believer that life is worth living boldly. Liberty should be used for good and we all have a calling to be equipped to pursue it. Every week we explore what it means to to live with intention and carry the tools and a mindset that prepare us for whatever comes. We'll dive into topics around the freedoms we cherish, the gear we trust, and the skills that equip us. This is more than a podcast, it's a mission. Life, Liberty and the quick to pursue it. Let's get started. We're coming to you live on a neomag, YouTube, Instagram and Facebook accounts. We'll be bringing your live comments into the conversation today. If you're listening to the recorded podcast, you can catch us every Wednesday at 1pm Eastern and be part of the live. You can get involved with us on our Discord server. Link is in the chat and show notes. If you're part of the NeoMag Insiders club, we'll have a discount code ready for you later in the show. Insiders Club is free to join and you'll get access to exclusive episodes, discounts and more. You can sign up using the pop up on our website@the neomag.com also hosting today with me is Nate Hills and Michael Billings. [00:01:24] Speaker B: What's going on everybody? [00:01:24] Speaker A: What up? Welcome guys. [00:01:27] Speaker B: What's up? [00:01:28] Speaker A: What's up? You guys ready to get right into this? Yeah, go. Hit it. [00:01:32] Speaker C: Let's do it. [00:01:34] Speaker A: I gotta get my. Gotta get it. Hold standby. I guess it comes down to a simple choice really. Get busy living. You'll get busy dying. [00:01:52] Speaker B: That's gonna fall over Mike 100%. For those of you that are listening. [00:01:57] Speaker A: Mike, do you still not have your iPad charged up? [00:02:00] Speaker C: Oh, the battery's a wee bit dead. [00:02:03] Speaker B: Mike has got his phone precariously set up on the table. [00:02:09] Speaker C: It's a sweet phone case, by the way. [00:02:11] Speaker A: The guy that's most in charge of our technology never has one that never. [00:02:14] Speaker B: Has a technology charged and 100% is going to fall. [00:02:18] Speaker C: Support water is. Are you guys the proud sponsor water. [00:02:22] Speaker A: Walmart note brand water? I got my spicy water today and my new yeti still gross Duck camo cup. [00:02:29] Speaker B: I have my very, very, very 32 ounce black. Always with me. Black cup. [00:02:36] Speaker C: Just saying tip would be proud. [00:02:37] Speaker A: Big gulps, huh? [00:02:38] Speaker B: I've had this. My wife bought this for me Christmas of 2017. [00:02:46] Speaker A: Wow. [00:02:46] Speaker C: So back in Nam. [00:02:47] Speaker B: Back in Nam. Which is why it's Very beat up. It's been at all of my workplaces since then. It lives on my desk. [00:02:55] Speaker A: Nice. Yeah, it's good to have. So I just got this new. This new Yeti, which every time I see duck camos I'm obsessed with duck camo. And yes, it's just because it's so good. And so Yeti does this release every year. And so I had to get. Which I did need, need, need a like a cup style. Something actually fits in my. Because I had like a Yeti mug which doesn't fit. [00:03:20] Speaker B: Doesn't ever fit anything in anything. [00:03:22] Speaker A: And then I have a water bottle which is really what I've used for years and years. But it's not great for just daily. Yes. Just on my desk. So I was excited to pick this up. Yep. Big fan. Today's episode not sponsored. [00:03:39] Speaker B: Not sponsored by Doug Campbell. [00:03:41] Speaker A: By Yeti. [00:03:42] Speaker B: This isn't Yeti even. It's an off brand. [00:03:44] Speaker C: It's not even Stanley just. [00:03:45] Speaker B: Nope. Just black. [00:03:46] Speaker A: Just. Just black. Just Cup. Today's episode just cup brought to you by by Cup. We do not have Tiberius with us today. He is at nbs, which is like a bi show. He's out there in Texas today. [00:04:04] Speaker B: Sweating. [00:04:04] Speaker A: Sweating. It's like 100 something without heat index. [00:04:08] Speaker B: I think it's unfortunate for him. [00:04:10] Speaker A: I was with him at the show last year and it was without heat index was 100 608. So it was like basically the sun. [00:04:19] Speaker B: I was at this show with him, excuse me, in January and it was fantastic to be down there. [00:04:27] Speaker A: Looking forward to going to that show. I will be there. [00:04:29] Speaker C: Well, outside of the rain, the cool breeze in that cool temperatures. [00:04:34] Speaker B: Oh, it's lovely. [00:04:34] Speaker C: Phenomenal. [00:04:36] Speaker B: We were just talking about it. [00:04:37] Speaker A: It's still pretty humid, but I took Rigby for a walk this morning in jeans and a T shirt. Did not end up all sweaty. [00:04:44] Speaker B: Listen, there is a high low. So they're the lowest high. If that's the way to describe it. The highest low temperature. High. Lowest high temperature in the next 10 days is 67, which could be lovely. [00:04:59] Speaker C: Well, you know, if it's not low, it could be high. [00:05:03] Speaker B: Listen, the Highest high was 81 in the next 10 days is what I saw. So it's fantastic. [00:05:08] Speaker A: I walked into the grocery store the other day. I know about all the other stores. I really try not to go to many stores. Went to the grocery store and as soon as I walked in, I looked on my left was like the flower section there. There was a turkey there. There were sunflowers, there were all these Thanksgiving. It's time Thanksgiving things. And I walk back past the, like the beer section and there's a bunch of pumpkin spice beers. And there's Oktoberfest beers. [00:05:33] Speaker C: Yes. [00:05:34] Speaker A: Which I was very happy to see that. And then I walk then. This is what really got me though. I walk past the candy aisle and there's Halloween candy. There's more. [00:05:42] Speaker B: Well, at least Halloween is in October, right? It's fall. [00:05:47] Speaker A: It comes first. [00:05:48] Speaker B: It's better than the turkey stuff, which is all the way in November. [00:05:52] Speaker C: Yeah, but what's a specialty that you make food wise during Halloween? [00:05:57] Speaker A: Right? [00:05:57] Speaker C: Like Thanksgiving, you know, you got turkey, you're going to have sweet potatoes, you're going to have cash. [00:06:01] Speaker B: I don't do anything for Halloween. [00:06:03] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:06:03] Speaker A: You celebrate Halloween year round. [00:06:05] Speaker B: Let's say you're the candy fiend, sir. [00:06:06] Speaker A: Do we candy. [00:06:07] Speaker C: We just purchased candy for our Halloween post. So it's a perfect traditional value that we should have of candy in the office. [00:06:16] Speaker A: Just try to find a reason to write off candy. [00:06:19] Speaker C: Yeah. Excuses is what it is. Yeah, no thanks. Steven, you gotta have the food, man. There's no falls in the air, no Halloween food. [00:06:26] Speaker B: Well, that's because five weeks from now they're gonna bring out the Christmas decoration. [00:06:29] Speaker C: It's coming. [00:06:30] Speaker B: Five weeks. [00:06:31] Speaker A: It was just. It threw me off because it was 95 degrees when I was walking into the grocery store. And then I see fall stuff out. [00:06:36] Speaker B: Everything's still green. Nothing's turning colors yet. [00:06:39] Speaker A: No, everything's brown. Because we haven't had rain well in a long time. [00:06:42] Speaker B: You understand my point, so. [00:06:43] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. I'm just proving your point of that it is the far opposite of fall outside of what it looks like that the inside of the store is. [00:06:53] Speaker C: My grass is looking a little rough. I didn't have a lawnmower blade problem. I just had a me lowered the deck problem. You scalped it just a little bit. There's some spots that are like. It's like fall, but it's not supposed to be. [00:07:04] Speaker A: Oops. Yeah. Falls in the air eventually. I think it's next couple weeks we're gonna feel it. [00:07:10] Speaker B: Hoodie weather. [00:07:11] Speaker A: Unfortunately. I'm gonna be in Orlando the first week of September where it's also gonna be extremely hot and it's a swamp. [00:07:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:21] Speaker A: So I'm preparing for that. I did buy this like one of those air conditioner neck things to try out. And I bought this little. This little fan that's supposed to clip on your belt. You can wear it on your neck, but you can also Clip it on your belt. That, that blows air. We were trying out to it the other day in the office. It sounds like there's like a jet plane starting in your pants. [00:07:40] Speaker B: 100%. The nice thing is you can point it down into your pants. [00:07:46] Speaker A: Have a stroke. You can point it down into your duane into your pants which like it the. I would not put it inside the pants blowing up. No, I would not want that. [00:07:58] Speaker B: Especially not in Florida. [00:08:00] Speaker A: That air, that air swamp. Little musky right up in your face. But I am wondering if you blow it down and I have like some powder, could I just like just tap a little powder into the fan. It just disperses it for me. [00:08:17] Speaker B: These are life's questions. [00:08:19] Speaker A: These are. Well, I will have an answer for that question. I'm going to try that out. [00:08:22] Speaker C: That is, that is why there's the Florida man label. Because you're going to be down there with jetpack fan in your pants and. [00:08:31] Speaker A: It'Ll start on fire when it's in my pants because I'm dumping. [00:08:33] Speaker B: People laugh so hard at that news. News flash. [00:08:37] Speaker C: Electrocutes itself. [00:08:39] Speaker A: I'll make sure that I take video, please. I will make sure. If I'm going to go viral for anything. [00:08:43] Speaker B: Might as well. [00:08:44] Speaker A: Might as well be that. Yeah. So today in our life segment, just catching up, just seeing what's going on with everybody. Sharing a little bit about us with you guys. And if you guys are live and you want to share stuff about you with us, we'd love to include your comments always in our conversation today so I can kick us off. I think I have me first on here. [00:09:07] Speaker B: Yeah, you do. [00:09:08] Speaker A: So on Friday I made the great decision and mistake to go play Ultimate Frisbee with a group of guys. And also I show up, there's maybe, I don't know, at least a dozen people, if not more, which I was shocked that there's that many people still playing Ultimate Free. I haven't played Ultimate Frisbee since I was, I don't know, it's probably been 10 years, so. And I knew that this group is together every, basically every week as far as I know, year round, as long as I can. So I show up and there's, I mean there's guys like my age there all the way down to kids that are, I don't know, 10, 12 or something like that. You know, it was co ed and just as you know, it's gonna, I was like, this is gonna be my speed. Yep. 43. I want to play some team sports, but I don't Want to be injured and in the midst of it, an hour and a half later of just so much fun. It was so much fun to play again and to play a team sport. I haven't played a team sport in a very long time. Probably since I played hockey like again almost 10 years ago. So tons of fun. The guys though, that are range from like 20 to 40. We're still playing pretty hard. Like we were. We were going after that Frisbee at just about any. Just about whatever it took. Plus there was a kid in the way or a woman. We were basically. [00:10:42] Speaker B: That's just hit him anyway. [00:10:43] Speaker A: That's my Frisbee. If you're going to be in my way, that's your choice. Yep. So tons of fun. I mean, not really any major contact or anything like that, but I couldn't move afterwards. I iced my knees all weekend. I also haven't really run on a field, like a grass field. I forgot. Forgot what that was like because even. Even back when I played lacrosse and stuff, we were playing on turf. I haven't played on a grass field and anything a very long time. [00:11:08] Speaker B: So it's not perfectly level. [00:11:09] Speaker A: It's not. [00:11:10] Speaker B: Maybe not have gopher holes and stuff. [00:11:11] Speaker A: Like, it's not gonna be perfectly. I never rolled my ankles, but your. [00:11:13] Speaker B: Ankles are constantly making up for something. [00:11:16] Speaker A: Making up for. For that. So my ankles hurt, my knees hurt. Totally worth it. Can't wait to do it again. So that was fun. I'm just reminded how old. How old I am and it's. I don't really ever feel very old. I still. In my mind, I'm still, I don't know, 20, so half my age of mine in my mind because for the most part, you know, working out what to do every day, I'm still doing what I was doing when I was 20, but when it came time to sprint three and a half miles non stop, like stopping. Stopping fast, you know, side to side movement, stuff like that. And the recovery paid for that. I actually. I thought I was gonna be sore for longer. I iced up pretty good that the next day. And then I've actually felt pretty. Pretty good since then. But yeah, did that. And then next thing we have coming up, there's some other stuff in between. But I don't need to tell you about every moment of my life. The next thing we've come up, Nate and I are going to be going down to aim day. Yeah. [00:12:08] Speaker B: Down near Cincinnati. [00:12:09] Speaker A: So if you are in the Cincinnati area, you're, you know, Northern Kentucky in the Cincinnati area. We would love to meet you guys. It is a free event at AIM. [00:12:19] Speaker B: Surplus from like 8 till 4, 9. [00:12:22] Speaker A: Till 10 to 4, 10 to 4. [00:12:25] Speaker B: I knew what time it was. It's fine. [00:12:26] Speaker A: The AIM's still open after 4, but the show's gonna be over 4, I think. There's, there's food. It's all free. There's. There's food and drinks and bunch of. [00:12:34] Speaker B: Vendors come hang out. [00:12:36] Speaker A: A bunch of vendors. [00:12:37] Speaker B: They have a bunch, I mean a bunch of big name companies that's gonna be there and hanging out with giveaways and people to talk to. It's gonna be a lot of fun. [00:12:48] Speaker A: Yeah, that's gonna be a good time. I've not been to this before. I remember Dusty went down to one of these before. Have you been to a name day? [00:12:55] Speaker B: I have not been to an AIM day. I've been to aim. Yeah, but not to the event. [00:12:58] Speaker A: I've not been to AIM or to a name day. So this is gonna be brand new for me first. Yeah. [00:13:03] Speaker C: Look forward to it to be fun. They've been, they were at Golcon. Guys were at Gone. They've been several events this year. [00:13:09] Speaker A: They've been traveling a lot. Yeah. Yep. Good. Nate, what's going on too? [00:13:14] Speaker B: Well, let's see. What did I put some stuff down? Oh, yeah, yeah. So school starting up back this week. My wife's a school teacher, so she started on Friday. Her first day back in the classroom was Friday. She had her students for the first time yesterday. My son starts first grade tomorrow, so we met his teacher last night. Got to see his classroom and drop all his school supplies off and see his desk and all that stuff. Then he starts tomorrow. The good and bad of all of that is that we're back into a morning schedule, which is wonderful and kind of a bummer at the same time. Wonderful from a perspective of my kids are back into a regular schedule during the summer. They just kind of are all over the place, go to sleep. They still have a bedtime, but it's a little bit more loosey goosey. They kind of get up when they want, go to sleep when they want to a certain extent. And it's not great for attitude and behavior and all that other stuff. Nice thing about the school year is they have set bed times, set get up times. It helps with behavior, helps with sleep, all that other stuff. So we're back into that. The bummer about it is my mornings are very regimented now. I don't have any freedom in the morning. It is get up, get the morning started, get the kids out the door, get myself out the door, get everybody dropped off and I'm back to a. I can't get into the shop, generally speaking earlier than 7:15, 7:20, which is okay. It's not necessarily a bad thing. It's just, it's regimented. There is no flexibility in the mornings. [00:14:54] Speaker C: And the crankiness in the morning now. [00:14:56] Speaker B: Well, I mean so far it's been okay. The kids are doing again, they're a little bit older, it, it helps. You know, they've been off for three months right now they're excited to be. [00:15:08] Speaker A: Going back to school, they're excited, they're. [00:15:10] Speaker B: Seeing friends, they're going to the. Right now they're going to daycare. My daughter will continue through daycare, my son of course going back to school, but they're going to see friends, they're excited to be back into that swing of things. So they're not quite to the I don't want to get up and go attitude yet. And we'll see, they may be okay. So the mornings have been fine so far, but it's just, there's regiment to it again, good and bad there, but it's, it's, we're back into the swing of that which is again it's good and bad. It's just there's regimen to it. I even got a, I got a message from the daycare for a thing for next week. I'm like, oh yeah, we're back into the swing of I've got other things that are going to take away from work or take away from other stuff like I've got to leave at 2 o' clock next week because the daycare shutting down at 2 for a parent teacher or not parent teacher conference, teacher appreciation day or something like that. So they're just shutting down at 2. So I gotta go pick up my daughter at 2 apparently next Friday. FYI, Greg, I'm taking off at 2 o' clock my Friday. Not a bad thing, just things that don't normally happen during the summer where I don't have restrictions of the kids because Bethany's off and she's taking care of the kids and the family and all of that. We're back into the swing of I've got some more demands on my schedule which again it's not bad, it's just different. So we're hitting that season again. It's a good thing, just different. [00:16:33] Speaker A: So our, our school already sent out a call and email because there's been a couple Cases of. Of hand foot. Oh, hand foot disease is already. It's first day of school is tomorrow. It's not even the first day of school yet, and there's already. [00:16:49] Speaker B: Which means a kid showed up with it bad on their parent. Tisk. Whatever parent sent their kid with hand, foot, mouth. [00:16:55] Speaker A: Hey, don't put things in your mouth that you shouldn't put in your mouth. [00:16:59] Speaker B: I don't even know actually how that starts, to be honest with you. We had that. We had a case at daycare that spread through the daycare. My daughter got it, my son got it, which then spread to me and Bethany because there's really almost no way to avoid it once your kids get it. If you're trying to take care of your kids, you can't avoid it. And it just sucks. It is not fun. Everything hurts. Your hands hurt. [00:17:21] Speaker A: I didn't have it. [00:17:22] Speaker B: Like my mouth. I didn't get any sores in my mouth, but my hands and my feet literally were. It felt like pins and needles just in your hands. Almost like when you're going. Like when your hands and feet go to sleep. Oh, it just. It's uncomfortable. Super uncomfortable. [00:17:36] Speaker A: I thought about this. Dan. Dan said homeschool for the win, for sure. [00:17:40] Speaker B: In that case, you're not wrong. [00:17:41] Speaker A: Not that it still can't happen, but at least you know the source. Yeah. You know where it's going to stop. [00:17:47] Speaker B: That's right. But yeah. So anyways, that's what's going on for me. It's just we're back into the swing of things. My wife was excited to be back at school. She's ready for her schedule to be back. She did get home and was like, oh, yeah. I had to be on my feet all day. I was tired and she was sore and everything from being on her feet teaching all day yesterday. But she's excited to be back, and it'll be nice just to have a regular schedule for family again. Routines are good. So fun. [00:18:13] Speaker A: Oh, Mike, what's going on with you? [00:18:15] Speaker C: Well, I didn't get to skydive when I was in Knoxville, but I did jump Friday. So as soon as I left here, switched gears, grabbed my stuff, and I was like, you know what? That's what we're doing. So got a fun jump in. It was great. I actually went to go free dive by myself, and one of the guys was there. He was free diving as well and ended up jumping together. So we held hands the whole way down. [00:18:36] Speaker B: Nice. [00:18:36] Speaker C: Until we lost. Lost connection. And I thought I was a good skydiver. Until I got on the ground. This guy's got 526 something jumps and he's a coach. [00:18:45] Speaker A: Wow. [00:18:46] Speaker C: And he's like, you suck. He didn't say that but he was. Gave me some. Some pointers to. To work on. But had a blast. Like holding hands 14, 000ft. You know, it's Perfect date. [00:18:56] Speaker A: Perfect date. [00:18:57] Speaker C: So it was good. But the last month I've spent kind of working in the basement. I borrowed tools from you. I've collected pallets from the shop. I've been working on the downstairs armory gym. And I'm sure the comments are gonna be great. [00:19:11] Speaker A: But the gymry jimmery. [00:19:13] Speaker C: I got that like 95% complete. Super stoked to kind of finally have the home feeling like a home and have everything organized so I know where it is. [00:19:23] Speaker B: Nice. [00:19:24] Speaker C: But that's. That's been the highlight of the weekend. I did that. We had a cookout. Had some. Had some guys over, some guys to train with, guys we shoot and hang out with. Had a little bonfire. Had a cookout before the weather rolled in. And then I'm heading out of town with you guys too. You guys are heading to aim day. I am heading down to Virginia this week for Guns Out TV 2025, their range day at Excal. So I'm taking all my gear. There is a wind tunnel there. And after my wonderful date in the sky and realizing that I still need some training, there's the wind tunnel. So I think I'm going to go hop in the wind tunnel. [00:19:58] Speaker A: I always want to try that. It looks fun. [00:19:59] Speaker C: That's where I've been told you really learn how to fly or really. We're falling. So it's being unstable and knowing how to stabilize in an unstable position. [00:20:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:09] Speaker C: So I'm going to potentially go do that. There's topgolf that we did the other day. That was a blast. I don't think either one of us had hit a golf ball in quite some time. At least for me. [00:20:20] Speaker A: It's been a while. [00:20:21] Speaker C: Been a while. And we were just driving them on out of the park. You know, I hit one over the fence, but that's because we were at the far right corner of the fence. [00:20:30] Speaker B: And I never do well. [00:20:31] Speaker C: One of those nice slices over the. Over the ropes. So. Yes, that was. That's kind of the last month. Last. Last weekend, this past weekend. And then what's. What's coming up. So it's. [00:20:43] Speaker A: Yeah, we're all. It's. [00:20:44] Speaker C: It's been busy for us this past Month. [00:20:46] Speaker A: All of us. Yeah. It's kind of fun. We're all, we're all going, we're all in different directions for, for some events this weekend. We're kind of divide and conquer. So it's, it's cool to, it's cool for me to kind of step back and see a team. I mean, your thing isn't necessarily. Is not a Neo Mag thing, but it's cool to see you going off to do that and yeah, it's great. Pangolin said that his. [00:21:06] Speaker C: I have Neo Mag in my heart. [00:21:07] Speaker A: Greg. [00:21:10] Speaker B: Always carry it with you. [00:21:10] Speaker C: Yes. And we're matching. [00:21:12] Speaker B: Oh, look at that. [00:21:14] Speaker A: As Penguin added, he said his boys are getting old enough to start trail life, which he's super excited. He said he wasn't allowed to do Scouts when he was young. So my son did trail life for a few years. I thought it was really cool. We didn't really like. We were the ones that just kind of showed up on the, you know, for the weekly meeting and then, then left. We didn't really take on the whole, you know, getting into all the things going camping trips, stuff like that. I, I wish that I, I wish that I would have done more with Scouts when I was younger. I think I did like Cub Scouts for, for a year or two. It really depends on. In my experience. It really depends on how well it's run by. [00:21:54] Speaker C: Yes. [00:21:54] Speaker A: By your. Not squad. What's the, your pack? I think they call it called a pack. [00:21:59] Speaker B: I've never heard of. I've never heard of trail life. Sorry. [00:22:01] Speaker A: So trail life is. They were doing it out of freshwater for a little while. Okay. It's kind of like, it's kind of like Scouts. [00:22:09] Speaker B: Sure. [00:22:09] Speaker A: But it's more, but it's more Bible based Scouts. So it's very cool. I know that they stopped doing it at. Oh, there we lose something. [00:22:23] Speaker C: It's just frozen. [00:22:24] Speaker B: We're frozen on. [00:22:26] Speaker A: Camera says we're all right. Yeah. [00:22:28] Speaker B: I don't know what's going on. [00:22:29] Speaker C: Camera's still recording technical difficulties. [00:22:32] Speaker A: Keep going. So, yeah, a trail if is very cool. If you have that in your area, I would recommend looking it up and I would also recommend not doing what we did and actually put the time into being an active part of it because I think there's a lot of, a lot of great things get out of it. Dan just sees some golf videos. We didn't really get any videos. [00:22:53] Speaker C: We didn't. [00:22:54] Speaker A: Which is probably fine. [00:22:55] Speaker C: That is probably for the best. Probably for the best. [00:22:58] Speaker A: Penguin says his wife has four brothers and all were Eagle Scouts. I know that's. That is quite the accomplishment to become an Eagle Scout along with her father, an Eagle Scout, and they all switched to trail life. Well, I know that there's been some weird things going on with the Scouts over the years that people aren't fans of, but for some reason, our video stuck. I'm not really sure. You could try clipping off the. Or turn off the camera and turn it back on, see if that. [00:23:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, the camera looks fine, but you can hear. [00:23:28] Speaker A: A little bit. Later in the show, we may have a guest for you, hoping that just. I gotta remember to give him a heads up. We're gonna have Vinnie from Monsoon Tactical hopefully joining us. If not, I'm gonna speak for him, so. All right, guys, we're doing a restart on the camera. We're gonna keep working our way through here. All right, let's. Let's get ready to go into our Liberty segment. Give me liberty. Oh, give me death. Two arms. Two arms. Mr. Henry. That's Mr. Henry. So for today's Liberty segment. Excuse me. I searched high and low. I spent a lot of time this week trying to figure out what it is I want to talk about. And I even talked about early on when we were working on starting this podcast. I knew this segment was going to be one of the hardest ones to keep going. We're on episode seven. It's already got pretty hard. So today I want to talk about AI and AI. AI. I know. Scary. I've held off, I feel like, for quite a long time on using AI and really trying to formulate opinions on anything like that. But I would say in the last. Would you say six months, we started using a lot more around here. [00:25:02] Speaker B: I would say it's been about six months. That sounds about right. [00:25:05] Speaker A: Yeah. So I was just. I want to start off just by talking about kind of how we use it, which is basically a search engine. And. Yeah. Not. Not Allen Iverson, the actual artificial intelligence. So we use it around here for. This is kind of helping us with copy. We will take. We will type up all the information on a product and we'll throw it into AI and say, hey, give us a more polished version of this. Because we are not polished, because it's kind of taking the place of a copywriter. And it's great because we can just. It takes us minutes to input information. It gives us back a more polished information. And then 99% of the time, we still have to kind of edit things. [00:25:57] Speaker B: Slight edits, nothing crazy, but just make sure that the information is either formatted correctly or some of it just needs to be, generally speaking, just slight edits, some small things. [00:26:10] Speaker A: Just sometimes it'll fill in gaps on its own and just make things up. Yeah, that isn't a thing. [00:26:19] Speaker B: But not difficult to correct. [00:26:23] Speaker C: But the gaps that it fills are sometimes hilarious. [00:26:25] Speaker A: Yeah, it is pretty funny sometimes. But it's also amazing how accurate it can be as well and just how good of it. And you can, you can tell it to what tone you want it to be in and if you want it, if you want something in a bullet point list or you want something in a, you know, sentence list, it's just, you can tell it what you want and it'll give you versions of it and then it'll even, it'll even make recommendations on different directions to go with it. So that's probably one of the biggest ways that we use it around here. We'll also use it every now and then just to kind of double check an email before we, if, you know, if there's kind of maybe a sensitive email we need to send or it's helped us probably be kinder to some trolls by saying, hey, this is what the comment is specific. I want to respond along these lines but I needed to, need to not be mean. [00:27:20] Speaker C: Yes, I did that this morning. [00:27:22] Speaker A: Yeah. And it helps us with that. So that's kind of how we use it. I'll be honest, I use it to help prep for the show. I will give it ideas that I have and say, can you help me expand upon this? So the funny part is we're going to talk about AI and some of the downsides of it that we're seeing recently. But at the same time I used AI to help me come up with this. So, but I've. So they weren't starting this. So I, I, so I watched something the other day. [00:27:55] Speaker B: Yeah, go. [00:27:56] Speaker A: I was just, I was, I was doing the, the Swipe of Doom the other evening and came across this video and it looked like a news story and it was a news story of a boy that assaulted a girl. She had some damaging, some long lasting damages and stuff done to her and just a really, really disgusting, sad story. And then the end of it was like, you know, this judge. So it was like in court, it shows this boy in court being all smug and smiley and just not, not sorry for what he did. And the judge, it shows the judge giving him a life sentence and stuff like that. And I went to the comments and I'm glad I did because one of the first comments was, this is AI And I saw a couple other people say the same thing. And a lot of times when I've seen other AI videos, there's usually something just really off. [00:29:04] Speaker C: It's super subtle, but you notice it. [00:29:06] Speaker A: But you're like, why does that person have three feet? Or why does a person have eight fingers? Right? Things that AI will do that. You're like, okay, that's AI. I went back. [00:29:16] Speaker B: You see a weird ripple that goes across the surface of something. [00:29:19] Speaker A: There's just weird stuff on a lot of these videos. And again, it's pretty subtle, but as soon as you see, you're like, oh, yeah, that was AI this, though I went back and watched it again, even after. Even after seeing it was AI and still had a really hard time. The only reason, it's probably something to kind of keep in mind. And I'm sure AI can do audio, but basically it was video with like a voiceover telling the story. So there wasn't actually any audio of the judge talking. Any audio of the. Because there was. Like the sister of the girl that was assaulted was, you know, like they did an interview with her. It was crazy how in depth and how many different shots there was to this video. Come to find out the whole thing was faked and it was AI. I've come across some other videos and I actually found a couple stories here of some other segments that. So there's an orca trainer hoax. You guys see this one? [00:30:20] Speaker B: I saw it after you said it. [00:30:21] Speaker C: Crazy all over the Internet. [00:30:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I saw a couple little things. So I'll be honest. I try not to consume a whole lot of, like, sad, disgusting things on social media. I just. I don't. [00:30:33] Speaker B: It's not good for your mental health, right? [00:30:35] Speaker A: I don't need it. There's nothing I can do about it. So it's just. All it's going to do is make me. It's just going to get me worked up. And so at first I didn't really watch this whole thing, but this came up in my search of one of the most recent things. So there's a video claiming to show a marine trainer named Jessica Radcliffe being fatally attacked by an orca during a live performance. Went viral on TikTok Facebook and X says the shocking content elicited widespread shock and outrage. As it. As it should, until fact checkers and experts confirm that the video was entirely AI generator. AI generated that no such trainer or incident ever existed. So it definitely. It looked real enough and definitely got people all Worked up. And now you're going to have people. This is why you shouldn't have workers in captivity. This is why you shouldn't have this and do this. It's just going to create division and a whole lot of strong emotions, a lot of different directions which honestly are all merited. It's fine to have all of those, all those thoughts and decisions, but it's creating it for what it just for likes and. Right, right. I mean the only reason that would be created is just to get people worked up. Just to get people worked up and you know, and to get likes and follows, I guess on your channel or whatever. [00:31:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:56] Speaker C: Almost like there's a deeper narrative to that. Maybe not necessarily the channel that's posting it, but it's whoever, whether it be AI itself or some individual. I don't necessarily think it's an individual. I think it's AI is being prompted and it's creating all of this material from what it's gathering it from an educational standpoint. Right. From like reverse source we're teaching it from by programming and telling it what we want. But it seems as AI advances we're going to see a lot more of this. But it's like it creates that again, that emotional response of maybe we're starting to have mass hysteria, mass fear, mass panic or mass, as you see in this, emotions across the wave. [00:32:39] Speaker A: Right. [00:32:40] Speaker C: Oh my God. [00:32:41] Speaker A: Right. [00:32:41] Speaker C: Everybody was like, rip, rip this girl. And it's not even a. It's a fictional person. [00:32:45] Speaker B: Right. [00:32:46] Speaker C: So that's the scary thing for me to think about is like if we can be affected by something so fake from this video. And maybe that's like a test, like Bitcoin, like maybe that's a test to see how we can affect the masses in what, six more months when we can't tell. [00:33:04] Speaker A: Well, Dan launched a comment and said we're basically in the dial up age of AI, Right. Which is crazy to think about. Right. And that's kind of where I actually want this conversation to go. I thought we spent a little time kind of talking about some of the things we've seen. There are a couple other stories here that I found out that I'll share, but I kind of want to direct the conversation eventually to where do we go from here? So another one that, that, that, that I found is Mumbai Red Rain Hoax. So there's like a fake weather alert said in Mumbai, India. A viral WhatsApp and social media post claimed that schools were closed due to a red alert for heavy rainfall. The message spread quickly Causing confusion among parents and students. However, the. I'm not going to be able to pronounce that word. The NBC or BMC confirmed the alert was fake news, emphasizing the dangers of misinformation in crisis situations. The incident shows how quickly false information can disrupt daily life and erode trust and official communication. This is. This is becoming more real. So these other videos are just kind of sad, sad stories made for no other reason but to get people worked up. But now you're actually reactions. You're getting school, like getting people to. [00:34:15] Speaker B: It's not just to get people worked up. On Instagram, we have a. An old friend of mine, his name's Wes, he's commenting, talking about how likes equals money or views equals money. Right. It's not just getting people worked up. It's getting people worked up and it's getting views, which ultimately gets people's eyes on a channel which then generates monetary benefit. Right? [00:34:37] Speaker C: Absolutely. [00:34:38] Speaker B: So people are using this to get attention, which ultimately brings money dishonestly. [00:34:46] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And now we see, you know, we see the story of getting people to. Which I'm sure the kids don't mind. Hey, no school. But school. But it's crazy. I thought that story was crazy because now we're actually seeing, you know, like an institution be affected and people. And then you end up with this. With this crying wolf situation where after this happened so many times, how do you tell what's real and what's not? [00:35:20] Speaker C: And the response time slows down and. [00:35:23] Speaker A: Then, yeah, it creates problems. [00:35:27] Speaker C: But that's happening. Even before the Jessica Radcliffe, there was a lot of those AI videos that you're like, man, is this an actual tragedy or is this an actual flood? Until you click the comments and go to the comments. Because the comments are always. Get some popcorn. You can enjoy it. But that's where you learn if it's the truth or not. Yeah. The weather fraud, I saw one kind of similar to that. It was similar to a flooding. It was replicating like a Texas flood, North Carolina floods. And I was like, oh, my gosh, this is crazy. And I was like, no, this was AI generated, man. I thought this was actually the current news part of what happened. But again, back to your friend's point, it's views gets money. [00:36:09] Speaker A: You know, I can just think, you know, from a couple years ago or even a couple elections ago, you would see fake news and for the most part, you were like, I can't believe people are falling for. This is ridiculous. And it would be the old people that would fall for sure. Like, come on, grandma. If you get off of Facebook because you're believing everything you see. Yeah. But I gotta be honest, it's starting to get really hard to tell the difference. [00:36:29] Speaker B: Well, I can remember this would have been, I want to say, two or three years ago. There was a guy I remember I shouldn't say. I know him. I met him a couple times in high school and he became semi popular on TikTok. I'm not on TikTok. But he'd post some of his videos on Instagram and there was some software that could do the deep fake person. The deep fake faces and everything. It would overlay their face over top of you and he could do an impression of somebody's voice. I can't remember who the person was, but he would do the deep fake with the software of that person's face over him and do their voiceover because he couldn't recreate the voice. And he'd make videos as that person. It wasn't perfect, right? This was two or three years ago. So it was still a little. You could tell. But it was close enough that you're like. If you're not paying attention and you're just scrolling through, you could make a mistake of like, oh, yeah, this person said this thing. If you're not being discerning about it. [00:37:30] Speaker A: Segues perfectly to my third story. I pulled. Yeah. CEO impersonator scam. The growing number of companies are being targeted by scams where criminals use AI generated voices and video deepfakes to impersonate CEOs and executives. In several cases, employees were tricked into transferring large sums of money, believing they were following direct orders from their leaders. Security experts warn this type of fraud is rising rapidly, highlighting the need for stronger verification systems and employing and employee training to safeguard both business and individual freedoms from AI driven deception. It's crazy. [00:37:59] Speaker B: Is that how I get my raise? [00:38:01] Speaker C: I was gonna say. Hang on a second. [00:38:04] Speaker A: You get a fake. I'm gonna fake you. You get me to believe that I am telling myself, email reminders. [00:38:11] Speaker C: Your AI reminder for me. [00:38:13] Speaker A: Like, I don't remember making this reminder, but I guess I did. [00:38:15] Speaker B: I guess I did. [00:38:16] Speaker C: It's in my book, too. [00:38:17] Speaker B: Listen, it's my voice telling me me to give Nate a raise. [00:38:24] Speaker C: I can't find it in handwriting, but I find it digital. [00:38:26] Speaker A: I really couldn't find the email. [00:38:27] Speaker B: I. I sent it to myself. [00:38:29] Speaker A: What? What? [00:38:31] Speaker C: I typed it to myself. [00:38:31] Speaker B: I don't think it'll work. [00:38:32] Speaker A: I got to really make sure my account doesn't. We know about It. Yeah, it's so. It's just, it. It's being used in ways, honestly I never would have thought. [00:38:42] Speaker B: Sure. [00:38:42] Speaker A: To use it for. Which is scary because how is it going to be used in a way that I'm not prepared for it being used in. To know. I do want to start pulling some of these comments we speak of comments here. I think Dan said that the best way. Where do you say it? The best way to tell if it's AI is to use AI. [00:39:09] Speaker B: That was patriotic Penguin. [00:39:11] Speaker A: Yeah, so I, I get that. But that's also scary too, right? Like using the thing. That's creating the bad thing to tell you if. [00:39:20] Speaker B: No, that's not fake, it's real. [00:39:23] Speaker C: The thing. Use the thing. [00:39:25] Speaker B: No, but his point is, is valid in a lot of ways. And I do understand from a perspective of professional, looking for indications of AI in resumes and portfolios, that kind of stuff. I do understand what they're doing. They're using it to identify itself. Understanding that it is scary that you're using the thing that you're trying to find. To find itself, essentially. [00:39:51] Speaker C: I mean, professors are having to do that with schools. They're having to have a program to catch it if it's like, did the chat write it or did you. [00:39:58] Speaker B: Well, so I was just telling Greg about this. So the university I graduated from, Cedarville, just decided this year, they bought. I don't exactly understand how it all works, but bought some kind of license to have it's. They're calling it Cedarville GPT Edu. Right. So they're giving all the students on campus some kind of license to use Chat GPT with their specific restrictions on it. [00:40:26] Speaker A: However. [00:40:26] Speaker B: However they're having it set up. I'm not, I don't know the specifics of it. I'm not a student on campus, so I don't know how they've got all the. However they. They've got it all set up. But of course, their goals aren't for their students to use it to write all their papers and all of that. But what they've acknowledged is, hey, AI is not going away. ChatGPT is not going away. So instead of making it this taboo thing that our students can't use, we shouldn't be using it. Don't do that. Let's figure out how we can professionally use this. How can we lean into using it as a tool and prepare our workforce to use this thing that's not going away, but use it appropriately. So it's. They're trying to use it in a professional and appropriate way. So it's an interesting discussion. It's not going anywhere. [00:41:17] Speaker A: No, it's definitely not going anywhere. And I do think there is a lot of amazing things about it. [00:41:22] Speaker B: There's just some scary things, but there's. [00:41:24] Speaker A: Scary this with any. This is the Internet in general. Oh yeah. Like we. This company wouldn't exist and none of this exists without the Internet. I'm very thankful for, and social media and all those things. But there's also some really down sides and negative sides to all those things as well. So I think the first thing is just being aware that this exists, that AI exists and that fakes exist. And we're actually going to kind of talk about this in the Faith and Fuel segment a little bit more, I think. But just being aware that it's there and taking your. Taking your time, like before you decide to believe in something, step back and double check. I think we have to double check everything. In a couple years, we're going to be going back into an election cycle. Just imagine what this is going to be like in the next presidential election. And the stuff that can be. That can be made. [00:42:14] Speaker B: Patriotic Pangolin makes a good point. Understand that it's truly not intelligence in the human sense, but it is machine learning does take a lot of the fear out of it. [00:42:22] Speaker A: Yes. [00:42:24] Speaker B: At least the stuff that we're all interacting with at that level. There could be some discussion. We could really go down a rabbit hole of what their goals are, what they're trying to get with quantum computing and all of that stuff. But that's a whole level of things that I can't actually get into, meaning I don't understand enough to actually have an intelligent conversation over. But what we're interacting with is truly not intelligence. He's not wrong. What we're doing is simply just the machine is reproducing what it already understands. [00:42:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm very comfortable with how we use it or what I'm using it for. It is very much information out. Information in slightly better. Yeah, yeah. Information in, slightly better. Information out. That's basically. And frankly, it's a great search engine. It's a conversational search engine, which I love too. That's basically how I use it. Yeah. But the fact that there are people using it in ways that I don't know how to use it and creating things that I would never think to use it. [00:43:27] Speaker C: I mean, it can write to code, it can do. [00:43:29] Speaker A: Yes. [00:43:29] Speaker C: Everything on the back. [00:43:30] Speaker A: Create a website. It is crazy what it can do. And it's amazing to do all that. There's downsides to all that too. That I have family that is a copywriter. That's a tough business to be in right now. Yep. Right. [00:43:42] Speaker C: But that's what we're seeing with AI. [00:43:43] Speaker A: Web developer and stuff like that. Like it's just I could create, I go create my own video right now. I don't know how to write code, but I could go code my own website like in a day. Yeah, yeah. [00:43:53] Speaker C: I mean I think that's. We're, we're kind of definitely on chat GPT here. But AI across the board with the intelligence you're seeing, I mean China just has a fully automated factory that works with the lights off. And we've seen factories be doing, implementing that with machinery and robots. But a lot of jobs and a lot of workforces are going to be replaced with an intelligent system that we did it to ourselves. It's that instant gratification, instant access to everything and now we want it immediately. And what do we do by doing that? We have to create something that outpaces us. [00:44:26] Speaker B: Well, and you have to understand that it will actually create other jobs. [00:44:30] Speaker C: Yeah, of course. [00:44:30] Speaker B: I think that's a thing that people do forget in industry industrialization, if you want to use that term. Any change is, yeah, some things go away, but other things are created in the midst of. Right. It's not just this goes away. This took this thing and now nothing else exists. I can remember it was one of my business professors when I was in college talking about how. I don't remember what the statistic was, but it was like 60% of those of us in the class were going to be 10 years from then in jobs that didn't exist while we were sitting in that class. Like literally jobs that truly were things that didn't exist while we were sitting in that class. Which was kind of wild to think about at that time. Right. None of us were thinking about jobs that didn't exist. But he was like, oh yeah, 60% of you or something like that were going to be in jobs that didn't exist. I mean that was 12, 15 years ago. Influencer wasn't a thing. You know this social media marketing wasn't a thing. There's so many jobs that have become a thing even since then. And I'm not speaking comprehensively. Just a few minor things that have become a thing that a bunch of my friends are working in. [00:45:50] Speaker C: I think we've definitely stepped into the digital age. [00:45:52] Speaker B: Yep. [00:45:53] Speaker C: But as we step into the digital age and we Step into the ease of access to everything from that instantaneous. It's right there at our fingertips that we're going to start to see. And there obviously, of course, there'll be more jobs, but I think over time that the human evolution is to make things so easy that humans don't have to do it, that somebody else does the job for us or something else does the job for us. And I think that's kind of. We're getting to that point and we can correlate that to what we see in the war. Yes, right now there's somebody sitting on a computer screen playing it. But we've had drones and everything else, guys in California operating overseas on a 12 hour shift, rotating. Right. And it's only a matter of time before AI takes over. That. [00:46:41] Speaker A: Something else, I kind of equate what you're talking about, Nate, is. So my senior year of high school, I took a drafting class, a hand drafting class. Right. We had a big table, big piece of paper, rulers, protractors, all this stuff, hand drawing stuff. CAD was really kind of just starting to take off then. Actually, no, that wasn't my senior year, that was my freshman year. [00:47:02] Speaker B: I did that well still. [00:47:03] Speaker A: But they got rid of the drafting program my sophomore year and started cad and so I started taking cad. Go ahead then. So you went from. You can find pictures of massive rooms at these big like architecture firms of 100 guys, hand drafting stuff, hand drawing things. Now you can have one guy in a computer and do it and do it, and probably half the time, if not more. So, yeah, CAD put a lot of hand drafters out of business, out of work. So how many of those hand drafters decide to take the time to learn how to learn a new part of it, how to do cad, how to be on the front edge of that. So to your point, for copywriters and stuff is the answer for them to start using AI to copyright so that they can do 10 times as much copywriting. They just go back and they edit. So that way you can offer a service far cheaper. And you know, because frankly, if I could, if I could hire a copywriter and I just tell the copyright, hey, I need any copy for this product, this product, this product. And I don't have to do anything else, I don't have to feed anything into it, I would pay a certain amount for that service. Right, right. But for a copy, for a copywriter now, it's very expensive. So I don't know. Could a copywriter use AI in order to offer services to More people at a lower rate, they can still make as much money, if not more, because they're able to serve more people. That sort of thing. I don't know. There's that whole side of thing to AI, but I think I just want to bring up. I've been duped a couple times recently and I just kind of wanted to. [00:48:42] Speaker B: It's because you're old. [00:48:42] Speaker A: Because I'm old. [00:48:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:48:44] Speaker A: But. [00:48:45] Speaker B: Old man. [00:48:45] Speaker C: Well, even at first, Jessica, like, when you first see the video, you're like, oh, crap. Like, that sucks. [00:48:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:51] Speaker C: Right? Oh, well, there's people falling in the water that were in the stands now. [00:48:57] Speaker A: Cool. Well, we're going to head into our next segment. [00:49:00] Speaker B: Equipped. [00:49:01] Speaker A: Equipped gun and a radio. [00:49:11] Speaker C: Not exactly Christmas, is it? [00:49:14] Speaker A: Were you expecting an exploding pen? We don't really go in for that anymore. Good luck out there in the field and please return the equipment in one piece. What's up, Vinnie? Hey, Vinnie, can you hear us? [00:49:38] Speaker D: What's up? [00:49:39] Speaker B: How are you, dude? [00:49:40] Speaker A: There he is. Yep, we got you. Just let you know you are alive on YouTube, Instagram and Facebook right now. [00:49:50] Speaker C: You're famous. [00:49:54] Speaker A: Hello, all. So we have a really cool custom shop project that we worked on. We've been working on this for a little while. Vinnie at Montune Tactical. Vinny, do you want to kind of tell everybody what you guys do and where to find you? Yeah. [00:50:12] Speaker D: So we're a custom shop here in Ohio, just right next door to our fellow friends over at the NeoMag. So that's how obviously we met because we're just. We're neighbors, basically, and we do a lot of custom work. Pistols mainly, but anything else you can think of too, like these beautiful pieces of EDC kit that you guys are about to show off. [00:50:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:33] Speaker D: So, yeah, you can find us on YouTube, Instagram, Monster Tactical, all the other places, and then our website, www.monsoon tactical. [00:50:45] Speaker A: Mindset. I. We have. I don't have. Between the three of us, I don't know how many guns we have. Do you have Monsoon? You have Monsoon work. [00:50:51] Speaker C: I don't have a monster yet. [00:50:53] Speaker A: We have. [00:50:55] Speaker B: You have three or four. [00:50:56] Speaker A: Several. [00:50:57] Speaker B: I've got one. I just can't show it, but it's sitting right in the studio behind me. [00:51:00] Speaker A: If we touch a gun on YouTube, we'll get. We'll get shut down. [00:51:02] Speaker B: But because YouTube is silly. [00:51:04] Speaker D: I heard YouTube's very strict. It's kind of weird. [00:51:06] Speaker B: Yes, it is. They will shut us down. If I grab it and bring it. [00:51:09] Speaker A: In here in the. Actually, it could probably sit there. It'd be fine. But if we were to touch it. [00:51:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:13] Speaker A: Then it would be. It'd become a problem. [00:51:14] Speaker B: It would be slapped. [00:51:16] Speaker A: So I've had Vinnie do stipple work for years and years. Slide milling, Cerakote. Do you guys have your own, like Genghis. It's a comp, like a integrated comp and porting packages that you offer on things too. And, and RMR cutting or not RMR necessarily, but red dot cuts and everything else like that, right? [00:51:39] Speaker D: Yeah, I mean we just, you know, for the most part what you. A lot of what you see in the industry as far as slide milling for red dots and Cerakote refinishing, a lot of people are doing that. Our hand stippling is pretty popular. And then obviously what's going crazy in the market now that we've been doing for a while is the porting segment of Things for Guns. [00:51:59] Speaker A: So. Yeah. [00:52:01] Speaker D: Yep. [00:52:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I was, I was very skeptical of comps and ports and all that stuff like. But I'm. [00:52:07] Speaker B: It's magic. [00:52:07] Speaker A: Full believer. [00:52:08] Speaker B: It's magic. And if you are curious, go shoot. Well, actually, Vinny, you guys have demo day coming up, right? [00:52:17] Speaker D: Yeah, we have demo day in October. There's a few slots left for there. Hopefully if you guys are available, you guys can come out and hang. [00:52:23] Speaker A: Cool. [00:52:24] Speaker D: And then be in Virginia this weekend with our demo fleet as well. If you're in the area going to guns out range day, we'll be there. [00:52:31] Speaker B: So go check out on their website demo day. If you get a chance to go buy a ticket, you get to. You get to shoot monsoon guns, right? That's a part of demo day, Vinnie. [00:52:42] Speaker D: Yeah. You'll get a demo everything that we have in our demo fleet and then we're going to throw down some stages and see who. Who's the best and give away some prizes and just hang out with some good food. [00:52:54] Speaker B: So you get to actually test out these awesome porting packages that Vinnie and his team put together and some of the stippling and the get to see the Cerakote in person. The porting packages they do are fantastic. If you are not a believer, you will be after shooting them. They're truly fantastic. [00:53:10] Speaker A: Yeah, if you suck at shooting, it's not going to make you good at shooting. But if you're good at shooting, it's. [00:53:15] Speaker B: Going to make you better. [00:53:15] Speaker C: More better. [00:53:16] Speaker B: More betterer. [00:53:17] Speaker A: More better. [00:53:18] Speaker B: More good or good here, more spicy. [00:53:22] Speaker A: So we did our first collab custom shop collab with monsoon. One of the things I've tried to do over the years is work with other Seracote companies in the industry to create their own artwork on our products. It works both ways. It gives the Seracoder an opportunity to kind of collab with another company and get their name out there. It gives us an opportunity to work with the Seracoder and. And get our name out to them. But even more so with. With Monsoon. We just. We've been friends for a long time and it just made sense to. To finally do. Do something together. We even have a couple other ideas for some custom shops that we'll hopefully we'll do it do in the future. But this. This one, we did a Poppies of War. And if you haven't seen this pattern, it's super cool. I'm wearing a. I'm wearing a out of gear poppy shirt right now. Nate showing you guys. If you are watching live, Nate showing you guys the tech trap right now. He showed you the mini tray and the neomag. So we have the full size EDC tray. We have the mini EDC tray, tack trap, and this is the first custom shop that we've done with a gen 2 NeoMag, which is pretty cool as well. Yeah, the guys coming in. Yeah, these turn out beautiful. We actually have a video we're going to. [00:54:45] Speaker C: It's a beautiful hand model. [00:54:46] Speaker A: We're gonna play for you that you can really see things a lot clearer up close. Nate, you want to. Try to. Try to play that video instead of break your wrist trying to. [00:54:55] Speaker B: Let me try and play this video. See if I can't figure this thing out. [00:54:57] Speaker A: Hold on, Vinny. Well, this plays. Do you want to kind of talk about. Yeah, there you go. The poppies pattern. [00:55:09] Speaker D: Yeah. So the. The poppies pattern itself was actually designed by Andrew Boiteman at Boiteman Designs. If you don't follow him, you should. He's kind of the. The brainchild for the pattern itself, and it's actually been around a lot longer than most people think. I remember seeing it way before it became popular, like when on here really made it mainstream. And Safariland, I think, is honestly who made it the most popular because it was all over their holsters and stuff. So Boideeman's been a good friend and mentor slash peer of ours. He's a true artist of his craft. He's. He's. He's one of those people that legitimately just nerds out on camouflage patterns in general and then just artwork and stuff. That's his main background. He's a little bit of an older guy too, so he's still very old school in the way that he designs stuff. So props to him for actually designing the product or the, the pattern. And he has graced us with the actual AI files to put it onto stuff like that. So those are the files straight from his hands into the AI files for us to able to print off on a vinyl for us to then backwards engineer the Cerakote process onto, you know, firearms, EDC trays, the tact trap and stuff like that. So we couldn't get that depth of detail without him. So we thank him and always want to give credit where credit's due as far as, you know, where the pattern is coming from. And you know, honestly, we have the exclusivity of the pattern and we're the only ones that have it. So if you see anyone else doing it, it's a knockoff version or they tried to pull it from somewhere. We have the legitimate files from the source and that's what's on the trays and attack traps and everything. So it's as legit as legit can get. All the colors from the brown and the red and the yellow were all custom made to match the, the actual pattern the best that we can with paint. So if you can see Greg's Hot Gear shirt, I would almost guarantee that the trays are pretty identical. It is identical as far as the color. So when I say it's as legit as the legit can get, that it's, it's. No, it's not just us being able to show our skill, which Taylor is actually in the room right now finishing up more of them across the Taylor Award as well. He's the main guy who's been seracoting all these for you guys. But like I said, we got the legitimate files from the artist and his, his grace to be able to use that for you guys. And now you can actually have them on because you're seeing it everywhere now. You have it on a hard that you can show off and, and be proud of. So we're, we're excited that we're able to team up with you guys and bring this little project together finally. [00:58:14] Speaker B: Well, in the, in the video and, and everything you can see it, but seeing it in person is so much better. [00:58:20] Speaker A: Yeah, the detail is just, it's fantastic. So cool. I can't believe you guys. I, I don't even know how you guys get the, how thin those yellow lines are and stuff in the, and the poppies is, is just knowing how masking works and all that all the. [00:58:33] Speaker B: Vinyl work you guys actually have to. [00:58:34] Speaker A: Do to make that happen, I can't believe. [00:58:36] Speaker B: Is insane. [00:58:37] Speaker D: Yeah, it's. It. The flowers are definitely the hardest part, believe it or not. And. But it's worth it. Once you peel everything off and you got everything, especially on, you know, the, the tag straps and the neomags, we were kind of like, man, not sure if we can get a flower on there, but we did. So every little piece has a little Easter egg somewhere that you can see. And, you know, I think whoever decides to. Honestly, if you're gonna get in on this, you have to have everything. [00:59:06] Speaker A: Yeah, agree. [00:59:06] Speaker D: At least a tray, attack trap and the knee in the Neo Mag to go with it. So whether or not you get the small spray or the big tray, I don't know. Or if you're a baller, get all four because I don't think you'd be disappointed. [00:59:19] Speaker C: No, I want this one. Yeah, this one's got the grenade right in the center. [00:59:23] Speaker A: Now are. Are each of the. Did you guys kind of use the same patterns on each of the things or are each of these going to be a little different? [00:59:30] Speaker D: I'm pretty sure the. All of them are going to be a little bit different. They're not going to be like, robotically placed as far as, like, you know, the same. Now, that being said, there's only so many pieces and parts in the pattern. Right. There's only so many different gun types, so many different styles of poppies and the flowers and stuff. You're going to see a little bit of repetitiveness there, but they're not on, quote unquote, going to be identical to each other. So they're all going to be a little bit different, so. But slightly within the same realm as far as, like, we try to at least get this on this part and this on this part as far as like a flower and a piece of greenery or a gun or something on a Neo Mag or attack strap because they're so small. And then obviously the, the trays, we have a lot more room for expansion. So to my knowledge, they're going to be slightly different across all the pieces that we did for you. [01:00:23] Speaker A: Yeah. So if, if you're listening and not watching and you haven't seen this pattern before, you have these, these really beautiful red poppies with, with yellow outlines and then the kind of the vine, the vinery in between them. There's. There's hidden machine guns and claymores. Claymores and grenades, grenade launchers and all sorts of things within it. And it's, it's subdued enough that you could probably walk and walk around and people wouldn't notice. Yeah, but people, people aren't going to. People are gonna look at the flowers before they're really gonna look y. Super close at the greenery. So it's just a really cool pattern. Yeah. And to be able to have a piece of that you can wear like Attack Trap or neomag and have with you every day and then, and then have something like one of the trays that really, that really shows off. The amazing thing to me is that you guys actually even wrapped the pattern around the edges. You guys went above and beyond what, what I expected. I expected maybe just something inside that, inside the tray, but you guys completely. [01:01:17] Speaker B: Wrapped the whole thing. [01:01:18] Speaker A: The whole thing. The sides of it even kind of goes on the underside. We did laser on the underside of the trays. It says Made in usa. That has buy as a neomag logo and the Monsoon logo on. On the underside of those. Even on the inside of the tack trap, you guys put a couple things on the inside of it, which is just that the added, added detail is. [01:01:39] Speaker D: Yeah, I mean, that's, that's what we're known for, honestly. It's just very small, subtle things that no one thinks about until it's there. Right. So the tax wrap's going to be open at some point. So, like, whether or not the person that gets it appreciates that or someone else from the outside looking at, it's like, oh, that's cool. There's a little bit of something extra when you open it, you know, and obviously that, that little thing is just the extra, the extra touch that kind of puts us above a lot of other places as far as what we do specifically, because there's a lot of other people that do the same things that we do, but we just take it to that next level with small detail like that. So we enjoy doing those little Easter eggs. It's just fun for us. And it doesn't take any much extra work, but it pays dividends in the, in the, in the grand scheme, you know. [01:02:30] Speaker A: Yeah, that. [01:02:30] Speaker C: Taylor did a great job. You guys did a great job at Monsoon, but Taylor in the background, you gotta, gotta give him props. He did outstanding. [01:02:38] Speaker D: He's. [01:02:39] Speaker A: He's. [01:02:40] Speaker D: We should be, we should be good to go on the deadline. He's been slaving, slaving away on them, so he's definitely been putting in a lot of work. So he's, he's much needed for little vacation for him. But yeah, it's been. He's been cranking it out. A little technical thing that we might not have touched on before is all. On top of all the trays with the artwork on it, we put a second layer of H301 clear over everything to give it some extra depth and to protect a little bit more. So. [01:03:15] Speaker A: Awesome. [01:03:15] Speaker D: On top of already having good Cerakote product on it, you're going to have to stay another clear coat, protective coat over it. And then we also think it gives a little bit more depth as well. Better finish. [01:03:29] Speaker B: Awesome. [01:03:30] Speaker A: And then for another added level of protection, we are laser cutting in house a radio real thin piece of petg, which is like an acrylic that fits in there. So you can just drop that in there. [01:03:40] Speaker D: Did you guys do that yet? [01:03:41] Speaker A: Yep, we did. Yeah. So I didn't. [01:03:44] Speaker D: I didn't see what that looked like yet. So I'll be curious to. [01:03:47] Speaker A: You can't see it. It's clear. It's. It's hard to even know it's there. The only reason you know it's there because it kind of adds a little. A little glare. [01:03:55] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:03:55] Speaker A: But honestly, I think. [01:03:57] Speaker D: Very cool. [01:03:58] Speaker A: But I think it actually even adds a little bit more. It even adds a little bit more dimension to it, I think. Just. [01:04:02] Speaker D: Yeah, it's like. [01:04:03] Speaker A: It's a. [01:04:03] Speaker D: It's like a picture. Like you're. It's like a, you know. [01:04:05] Speaker A: Yep, yep. [01:04:06] Speaker D: Behind a piece of glass. Very cool. Yeah. [01:04:08] Speaker B: So you won't have to worry about it. [01:04:10] Speaker A: Yeah. You're dropping your keys, pocket knife, that sort of thing. You're not gonna. You're not gonna ding up the circle, which circle's already extremely durable. But we plan on you have you enjoying this for decades. And we want it to look very. [01:04:21] Speaker D: Durable, but it doesn't matter. You throw keys. You know, we know what. We all carry stuff every day. Keys, knives. You start throwing it. Like, I've had my. My EDC trace since 2020, I think is when I got won that one at Donovan's class. And it had the carbon fiber inserts in it. [01:04:43] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:04:44] Speaker D: And I just know how rough I treat that thing every day as far as throwing keys, knives and stuff in it. So that little clear piece is a very good touch. It'll definitely protect that. That coating forever because you'll eventually, you'll be able to do something as far as throwing a key or something in there to scratch it. But I'll really be. It'll be fun to see what that looks like alongside with whatever leather Insert you guys are putting on the big tray. That'll look really sharp. [01:05:11] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. We just have a black insert on the other side, and it definitely. Definitely pulls it together. [01:05:16] Speaker B: Looks great. [01:05:17] Speaker A: Looks great. Yeah. We have a very limited quantity. These. Quantity of these. I'm hoping to be able to steal one for myself, but I'm also hoping they sell out and I don't get to. I don't get to get one. But the Emily steel. Emily's taking attack trap because those tight traps are also trapped in the Omega. Maybe. I don't know. I might steal one of everything because I love it. [01:05:36] Speaker D: Oh, we can always make you. [01:05:37] Speaker C: We're. Yeah, we're gonna have to have. Everybody at the shop has the poppies of war. [01:05:41] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:05:42] Speaker A: They're. It's. It's probably my new favorite. [01:05:44] Speaker B: I have a gun, so I. I got the best. I got the best part. [01:05:48] Speaker A: He's got a matching gun, so. [01:05:50] Speaker B: Which. Thank you for that one, Vinny. It looks really, really good. [01:05:53] Speaker D: You're welcome. Hopefully you guys were able to use it for content for this drop. They were excited to see what you guys came up with. [01:06:00] Speaker A: Yeah, we were. We were holding off. Shoot. Well, they put a few rounds through it. Yep. At the range, but we're kind of waiting to really put a whole lot through it. [01:06:07] Speaker B: I didn't want to ding it up or anything too much before we did the drop. I wanted to keep everything pristine, but now I can. Now I can put. Put it through its bases. [01:06:16] Speaker A: It's going to get run hard now. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for your time, Vinnie. I appreciate you hopping on. I appreciate all the work that you guys did. Make sure you tell your team that we said thank you and of course. [01:06:26] Speaker D: Thank you guys for the opportunity. It's always great working with you, so definitely get it on this, guys, because there's not very many of them. It was definitely a labor of love. And, you know, I don't think we're going to be disappointed when you get whichever one you get, because they're all sweet. So. [01:06:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:44] Speaker D: Cheers, guys. Thanks. [01:06:45] Speaker A: All right. [01:06:45] Speaker B: Thanks, Vinnie. [01:06:46] Speaker A: See you, buddy. All right, so there you go. That was even colder to have the. Have the artist himself. Himself. Well, one of, actually. The Sarah Coder, I would say. Yeah. To have the guys. [01:07:01] Speaker C: The collaboration with Monsoon. [01:07:03] Speaker A: To have the collaboration. To have Monsoon on with us is just. Just super cool with this. I'd like to do that more as we move forward with some of the customs. I've had the artist on with us. That helps with that. We do have a question here. Can you use the bat with the beltless V1? Yes, 100%. And is there an ALTI clip to the rear of the bat to clip on the rear of the shorts? [01:07:26] Speaker B: No, there is not. [01:07:28] Speaker A: You just, you use the ALTI clip. So you could choose to leave the altic put the alt clips on or you can take them off. I like to use the bat strap with the Ulti clips at the same time. Then your bat strap kind of acts as like a, kind of acts as an inner belt. And then when you clip your shorts or sweatpants or whatever to it now you actually have support. Your pants are actually being supported by the belt underneath it, which is kind of nice as well. So our recommendation, keep the ultra clips on there and use them at the same time. [01:08:01] Speaker C: Or you could just bats with no. [01:08:03] Speaker B: Pants if you want that bat. You know what you can use if you're a NeoMag insider? What can you use a 20% off discount code that I'm going to post in chat now. Now Dead center for 20% off for the next 36 hours if you are a part of the NeoMag Insiders. Use code. Dead center for 20% off if you're a NeoMag Insider. [01:08:27] Speaker C: Oh, look at that plug. All right, guys, if you are not an insider, it's super easy. Go to the website www.theneomag.com. you will have a pop up tab that says join the insiders. It's absolutely free. Your first purchase is 15% off thereafter. Each week we launch a 20 discount code. You guys got smart on us, so you started knowing our code. So now we have new ones. [01:08:46] Speaker A: That's right. Start making a different one every week. Yeah. For those of you who are watching live or listen to the podcast early enough, which I definitely see a big spike, which probably happens, code or not. I did definitely see a big spike of listeners within the first 24 hours. [01:09:01] Speaker B: Sure. [01:09:01] Speaker A: Because you guys are probably trying to get that code, which is great. That's why we have it for you. Yeah. So these are going to be dropping Friday around noon Eastern standard. I highly recommend you guys pick one up. I really cannot express how much, how well I think these turned out. And they're going to be worth every penny, I guarantee. Because I actually do guarantee it. If you don't think it's worth it, then we'll buy it back from you. You have 30 days to decide if you want to return or not. But I really don't think you're going to want to return. Any of this stuff? [01:09:33] Speaker B: No, that's. It's fantastic. Vinnie and his team did a great job. It looks amazing. It turned out great. There's nothing to complain about. [01:09:41] Speaker A: While you're at it, you can go to. I 100% recommend his pistol work. Oh, yeah. His stippling, his slides, his porting, his. [01:09:49] Speaker B: Porting, all of it. [01:09:51] Speaker A: I have a staccato C, the new staccato C, which is already one of the best guns that you can buy and shoot, is a phenomenal shooter. But I had him do the. What's it called? [01:10:02] Speaker B: Grand. The grand Master Genghis Khan. [01:10:04] Speaker A: Master Genghis. So it's got the Genghis comp, which. It's just a big port. It's not just. There's actually. There's a lot more to it. There's a big port on the end of the barrel, but. But then there's what I think five. [01:10:14] Speaker B: Three. [01:10:15] Speaker A: Three. [01:10:15] Speaker B: Three inline ports behind it. [01:10:17] Speaker A: Three ports in the. I don't know why the combo was held. Held back. Sorry. Show the comment. Yeah, so. And then there's. Yeah, there's three. The thing just shoots. If you've ever shot a staccato xc, the big. The big, like, race gun, this little staccato C shoots like. [01:10:36] Speaker B: It's all said. [01:10:37] Speaker A: XC does. It's ridiculous. [01:10:39] Speaker B: But you also had him do a custom porting job for you on his. On your P. Your staccato P. Yeah. [01:10:44] Speaker A: Mr. Staccato P. He actually. I went out there, I went to his shop, worked with him and his machinist to come up. I came up, kind of. Kind of came up with my own design. It's basically ports. [01:10:56] Speaker B: It's a cluster. Yeah, it's a cluster of ports. [01:10:58] Speaker A: Yeah, a cluster of ports where a comp would be. So it's kind of both. [01:11:03] Speaker B: It's awesome. [01:11:03] Speaker A: It works great. [01:11:04] Speaker B: It's great. I have an M and P with his Lucky Sevens that shoots fantastic. That's what we have done up in the Poppies of War. He did the poppies of War pattern and he did his stippling on it. I believe it is Vinnie. I think it's his bottom Rodham bottom Ramen stippling pattern on the. The pistol, which, if you saw the video clip from earlier, it's the pistol that's in the video clip. He did a great job. It looks fantastic. And the Lucky sevens is a fantastic porting package. [01:11:42] Speaker A: Yes. So it will not go wrong. [01:11:44] Speaker C: Well, I don't have one yet, so I'll be with Vinny again this weekend. You know, I didn't use my head this time to get one from Vinnie. [01:11:51] Speaker B: Should have done it. [01:11:52] Speaker C: But I get to shoot with his team. So. Those guys are some of the solid shooters in the industry. [01:11:56] Speaker A: It's true to me. Nate are actually buying a new M and P. But it's not. [01:12:00] Speaker C: Another one. Another one. [01:12:02] Speaker A: This one's different. [01:12:03] Speaker C: Is it going to be a metal frame? [01:12:05] Speaker A: No. No. So speaking of metal frame. So actually we got a couple comments here. We can keep talking gear for a little bit here. So tone lock says P211 thoughts. So yes, we all hate Sig, but man looks nice reviews so far so good. I do not hate Sig. [01:12:24] Speaker C: You carry a Sig every day. [01:12:25] Speaker A: I wish that Sig would get their stuff together. [01:12:29] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:12:30] Speaker A: And be a good. I'm not happy with Sig, but I don't. I don't hate them. I have several Sigs. All of the Sigs I have are, are and have been. [01:12:41] Speaker B: You don't own. But you don't own a 320? [01:12:43] Speaker A: No, I don't own a 320. I don't recommend. I never have recommend even before all this. I just. There's better guns out there than the 320 so I've not recommended it. However, this 211, I cannot wait to shoot. [01:12:55] Speaker C: Have you guys seen it? Nice. It looks good. [01:12:59] Speaker B: I will be honest. This is may come as a shock. I have paid almost no attention to it. Not because it's a Sig. It has nothing to do with any opinion on Sig or anything like that. [01:13:09] Speaker A: I hadn't. [01:13:10] Speaker B: I didn't know it was coming and I've just seen a couple posts on it. I haven't watched a video on it. I just haven't had time. [01:13:15] Speaker A: I've not watched any reviews yet. I think you guys reminded me to do that. I just haven't. Haven't thought of it. But. But from what I've seen, I love. I love how it looks. [01:13:23] Speaker C: It does look. [01:13:24] Speaker B: I'm. I'm a fan of anybody that's jumping into the 2011 market. Yeah, let's make more of them. I think they're cool. They're awesome. If it runs well and it looks cool. Let's go. Bring it on. [01:13:36] Speaker C: There's a lot in the 2011 market now. Yeah, there are a lot of companies that are coming out or that have. [01:13:41] Speaker B: Double stack nine because nobody can actually use 2011 because it's only staccato. [01:13:45] Speaker A: And I've been waiting for another. I've Been waiting for another, another quality gun company to come out with a 2011. Right. [01:13:58] Speaker B: Like we just got booted from Instagram because we went over an hour. [01:14:03] Speaker A: Oh, oh, that's a bummer. We've gone over an hour every, every week. I don't know. [01:14:08] Speaker B: I'm just telling you. [01:14:09] Speaker A: All right. So yeah, I've been waiting for another good gun company. So Springfield came out with the Prodigy. It wasn't great. It was okay. They sent us one. It had some issues. It was fine, especially for the price point. I thought it was fine, but it was not going to be reliable. Now they may have fixed a lot of this stuff. We got one of the very first ones and they weren't great when they first came out. There's a bunch of other kind of niche companies that have come out with 2,011, but they're all pretty high $. You've got what? Bull Armory is probably more on the budget side of them. But I also wouldn't call Bull a major gun company. Regardless, I think SIG is probably the first company to come out. It's my opinion, first company to come out with a 2011 that is like a legit gun company. Now the whole 320 thing, you take that in mind. I, I separate that into just that. That one gun. They make a lot of other guns that are, that are great. But the cool thing about the 211 is it's $2,400. That's not bad on Bass Pro right now. [01:15:25] Speaker B: It's not a bad price. [01:15:26] Speaker A: No, I mean that's staccato range. Yeah. Right. So they aren't necessarily trying to. They aren't even trying to come in as a cheap alternative. They're not trying to come in as a $5,000 high end alternative. They are coming right in and competing directly. Same price point with Staccato. I think that's pretty cool. Like to have other. Have other options by a well known and I still think good company, good companies with an asterisk there. I still have a hard time saying that loud because I large asterisk because I think they are making major mistakes right now that they're going to have. They're going to have to face issues for a long time. [01:16:11] Speaker C: We don't have to worry about the fire control unit though. [01:16:13] Speaker B: And Dan, you're right. I don't have to buy all of them when they come out. In fact, I have not bought any. [01:16:18] Speaker A: He's not bought one. [01:16:19] Speaker C: But Dan, if you need to buy all of them and send a Couple this way. [01:16:23] Speaker B: Dan, you have like a billion 2011s in that safe. I think you've added more since I came and visited the shop. So don't. Don't be talking to me about buying 2011. [01:16:32] Speaker C: He's got a fit. He's got to buy every gun for every holster. [01:16:36] Speaker B: That's true. [01:16:37] Speaker A: And a holster for everyone, at least, seems. [01:16:39] Speaker B: Seems reasonable. Seems reasonable. [01:16:41] Speaker A: But. Yeah. [01:16:42] Speaker C: New guns and holsters for us, Dan. All the guns that you buy and the holsters you make, you just send them over here. We'll clean your safe out. [01:16:50] Speaker A: So if they're making critical P211 parts with Indian MIM components, then. I'll pass. Yeah. I'm not sure where everything's. I'd have to see one being made. Yeah. [01:16:59] Speaker B: I don't know. I'm not. Like I said, I've not watched a single video yet. I don't know anything about them. [01:17:04] Speaker A: I'll wait for. I wonder if 1911 syndicates come out with one. He's probably my favorite. [01:17:08] Speaker B: He's normally. Or they. I shouldn't say he. They because it's several of them. They normally take time before they. They drop a review, so I wouldn't be surprised if they'll do one. But it probably won't be for a little bit. [01:17:18] Speaker A: I'll be looking out for theirs. Yep. They just do. So I don't. I don't enjoy watching reviews. Gun reviews. But they're one of the ones that I. Yep. I do Enjoy. [01:17:26] Speaker B: Shout out. 1911 Syndicate. [01:17:28] Speaker A: Yeah. All right, next and last segment. [01:17:34] Speaker B: Let's do it. [01:17:35] Speaker A: No. You say you've been walking for 30 years, right? Right. Have you ever thought that maybe you were lost? No. Well, how do you know that you're walking in the right direction? [01:17:44] Speaker D: Walk by faith, not by sight. [01:17:47] Speaker C: What does that mean? [01:17:48] Speaker D: It means that you know something. [01:17:49] Speaker B: Even if you don't know something. [01:17:52] Speaker A: It doesn't make any sense. [01:17:53] Speaker D: Doesn't have to make sense. [01:17:54] Speaker A: It's faith. It's faith. [01:17:55] Speaker D: It's the flower of light in the field of darkness. It's giving me the strength to carry on. [01:17:59] Speaker A: You understand? She does not. [01:18:03] Speaker B: No. Will always be my favorite part. [01:18:06] Speaker A: I know every time I hear it, he just sounds more. [01:18:07] Speaker C: More. [01:18:08] Speaker B: More irritated. [01:18:09] Speaker A: Know this, my beloved brothers. Let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger. For the anger of man does not produce the righteousness of God. Therefore, put away all filthiness, all filthiness and rampant wickedness. And receive with meekness the implanted word which is able to save your souls. But be doers of the word and not hearers, only deceiving yourselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he was like a man who looks intently at his natural face in a mirror. For he looks at himself and goes away, and at once forgets what he was like. But the one who looks into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and perseveres, being no hear who forgets, but a doer who acts, he will be blessed in his doing. It's James 1, 1925 I was reading out of the ESV. I'd recommend pulling up a couple other versions and translations for it because there's some kind of cool things you can pull out of what's a very complex language. So anyway, I love this verse. I think about parts of these verses probably almost daily. It's a very applicable verse and I thought it was even more applicable considering what we've talked about today, for sure. What's your thoughts on this? Nate? [01:19:30] Speaker B: Well, there's a lot. James by itself. We did a study on James and Amends Bible study I used to be a part of a couple years back and I think we spent and I'm trying not to exaggerate, but I think we spent a year going through James and this was a weekly Bible study. Just because you can spend so much time on each single verse in James, there's so much that is said throughout the book of James. It's so much. But one of the things so we were talking earlier about even if you aren't a believer, just taking the advice of being quick to hear but slow to speak, just taking the time when something comes across your eyes, your ears, just to hear and see it, process it and not immediately react to it is just good, sound advice, right? Not again taking any biblical belief out of it. It's just good advice, right? Obviously we believe it as a mandate, as a biblical belief, but just good advice. One of the things that I really like is the be doers of the Word and not hearers only. So I've been watching my colleges Fall Bible conference they do as they go into the fall semester. And the speaker this year is a pastor from down in Florida and he was talking yesterday or Monday, I can't remember which day. He's been talking about Romans. He's talking about sanctification versus justification and that discussion and he was talking particularly to folks that had been saved. [01:21:19] Speaker A: Long. [01:21:19] Speaker B: Period of time and he had this to discuss. So what he had asked of the students, he said for those of you that have been saved since you were a young child, you've been saved for the majority of your life. He said this. That means most of the worst sins you've committed have been after you were saved. Have you noticed that about yourself? You know why that is? Because sanctification is a process. Sometimes it's two steps forward, and then it's three steps back, and then it's four steps forward. But the truth is, over time, you're supposed to be growing to become more like Jesus. Now Jesus does all the work for our justification. He did that on the cross. Now it comes to our sanctification. Your sanctification. You have some work to do. It requires your participation, which I think what he's talking about in James is being doers of the word, not hearers only. We can hear about it, we can process it, but we also have to do the thing that we're being, that we're hearing comes back to hearing that. Being quick to hear the word, Process. [01:22:20] Speaker A: One thing to be quick at, hear it. He only says one thing and hear and not. There's a difference between hearing and. I always say listening. I kind of use it the other way around. I usually want to explain this, but I guess just to drive the point home is like we can just listen to things and not really let it soak in. This is be quick to hear. Actually. Actually hear it and not just. Not just read it real quick in. [01:22:50] Speaker C: One ear, out the other. [01:22:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Like actually, actually hear. And I think there's a process to hearing something. I think we need to take the time to try to understand the other person's point of view. [01:23:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:23:02] Speaker A: And try to put yourself in their shoes. I would say try to try to understand what it is they're saying and the reason they're just saying it. Not just I like or I don't like. I think it's a lot of times we just react to that. And reaction is quick. Just by definition. If you react to something, it's quick. [01:23:22] Speaker B: Be doers of the word, not hearers only. And then at the bottom it says, being no hearer who forgets, but a doer who acts, he will be blessed in his doing. And that comes back to that sanctification part. It's. It requires participation. It's not just, you didn't just hear it. Our justification doesn't require us to do anything. Christ did that for us on the cross. But our sanctification is a process and it requires our participation. Not just sitting. We have to do something that's Good. I can't drop my mic. It's here. [01:23:54] Speaker A: You should pick them up and drop. [01:23:55] Speaker C: All right, pass the mic. [01:23:58] Speaker A: That's it. [01:23:59] Speaker C: I think what you guys are saying is kind of what I had a little note to was, sums everything up to this. The word isn't meant to sit in your head. It's meant to shape your hands, your choices, and your life. And that's what it says in the verse. You know, being slow to speak, slow to anger. You know, these things for me are the same things that equate back to the same thing. As Nate said, control your anger, master your tongue, and walk with purpose. Like, it's a great guideline for you to be able to understand. Like, this is for me to hear, right? And we were saying this was like an analogy. Like, so you can understand that I'm saying, don't just listen to hear it and go in one ear, out the other, but listen to comprehend. And then once you grasp what I'm trying to explain to you, take and walk with that. And then the fruits of your labor will be sowed from that. And that's just my add on to. To it. But slow to speak, okay, that means I'm listening. That means as you get onto me, sometimes you're not patient because I compartmentalize and multitask too much, right? But it also teaches me sometimes slow down. Slow to speak can teach you patience. Slow to anger can teach you, again, patience and resolve or empathy or any other fruits of the labor that we want to carry and walk and justify it by our actions. And I think, you know, and for me, in this verse, that's how God speaks to me. That's how in, you know, James and in this verse speaks, it's again, take your time. Absorb what I want you to understand. Take it so that it's a good positive attribute that you can walk forward with and give to others, and let this be a path in life that you can walk and that your actions be a direct reflection of what I'm suggesting for you. So, yeah, there's my pass the sick, the mic drop. But again, to sum it right back to our notes and what we've said in this is, don't let it sit in your head. Don't let it just sit there. Don't let it just be a voice without reason. Let it be a voice with a reason that comes with the cause and action to follow. [01:26:14] Speaker A: Anytime you hear. I'm sure you've heard pastor say this before, anytime you see the word, therefore, you ask what it's there for. So it says, therefore, put away all filthiness and rampant wickedness. All right, so what are things that we are taking in as we were talking about AI and watch these videos, I mentioned how I really try not to watch too many of these sad stories too often because it's just going to make me, as it says in the verse before the anger of man, it's just going to make me angry. And not a righteous anger like God would be, but my, like a unrighteous anger. So just put away the things that we're allowing to come into our minds in our lives that are filthy and wicked and receive with meekness. I think meekness is a word that, that a lot of us probably would not want to associate with if we're like alpha men. I don't want to be. I don't want to be seen as meek, but meek is humble. It's allowing myself to become a servant. It's allowing myself to become second to the word and allow the word to work in me instead of me trying to do everything myself and me trying to put myself first. But then this verse ends with, which is able to save your souls? Isn't this what we ultimately want? These aren't just recommendations to make your life better. These aren't top three things to be happy today. No, these are things that will save your souls. These are things that are going to, if we allow these things to take over our lives are going to steal our souls. And these are all things that are so easy for us. Just go on social media for 30 seconds. Mike deals with us in comments every day. People are just so quick to be angry and to spit evil and wickedness. And if we're seeking after the implanted word, if we're seeking after to be more like Jesus, then we're going to find that our souls are going to be saved. And that's ultimately what this is for. So I just thought this was a great verse to kind of going to end with. I think it applies with a lot of things we talked about today. Namely, when you see a post on social media, stop for a second and. [01:28:38] Speaker B: Go, is this real or is it worth my time? [01:28:41] Speaker A: Is it even worth my time? If I do think it's worth my time, then how should I react to it in a healthy, godly way and not just out of spite and anger. [01:28:53] Speaker C: And if it's a beautiful day outside, go outside, put your phone down, touch grass, Enjoy. Enjoy the grass. Enjoy the family time. Enjoy times with your kids. [01:29:02] Speaker A: Go smell a flower. [01:29:03] Speaker C: Go smell a poppy. [01:29:05] Speaker B: Poppy. [01:29:05] Speaker A: There you go. [01:29:06] Speaker C: That might be trouble, right? Poppy flower. Maybe certain locations. [01:29:11] Speaker A: But yeah, don't be a hearer who forgets, but a doer who acts. He will be blessed in his doing. Are you guys ready to wrap this up? [01:29:22] Speaker C: Let's do it. [01:29:23] Speaker A: Hit it. Thanks for tuning in to Life, Liberty and equipped. If today's conversation challenged you, encouraged you, or helped you get more equipped to pursue your mission, share with a friend, drop a comment and leave us a review. [01:29:37] Speaker B: Don't forget, we go live on the NeoMag YouTube channel, so be sure to subscribe and turn on notifications so you can be part of the next live show. [01:29:46] Speaker C: And if you're not already part of the NeoMag Inside Riders Club, now is the time. Get early access to NeoMag gear, exclusive content and front row seats to everything we're building. [01:29:56] Speaker A: Until next time, Live, boldly stand for liberty and stay equipped. 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